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Future of Vista 64 bit install


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#1 audioAl

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:38 AM

Ok Guys: Is the future of 64 bit install only about speed and Money? I have Vista Ultimate, I installed the 32 bit so my audio capability was not limited. Can anyone expound on the future of the 64 bit install? Everyone jump in on this!
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:11 PM

If you have 4gigs of memory,you will be able to use the entire 4 gigs. As time goes on, more software will be written for 64 bit
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:35 PM

hi,,, as mark says 64 uses the full 4gb of ram if installed,,, but is more ram hungry than 32,,, which is a bit of a catch 22,,, one way round it i suppose is stick 8gb in the 64bit version,,, which obviously you cant do with 32bit,,,
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 06:50 AM

[quote name='figgis41' date='Nov 28 2008, 03:35 PM' post='1022580']
hi,,, as mark says 64 uses the full 4gb of ram if installed,,, but is more ram hungry than 32,,, which is a bit of a catch 22,,, one way round it i suppose is stick 8gb in the 64bit version,,, which obviously you cant do with 32bit,,,
good luck. Hey figgis & Mark, you two are the biggest responders here, Thanks. I will wait to use the 64 bit disk that came with my Vista Ultimate. I have 2 gigs of Corsair ram and my Vista is very fast and smooth. I also run Linux Unbutu Ibex in a 30 gig partition thru wubi installer. * gigs of Ram seems like overkill?
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:54 PM

hi,,, i know what you mean about a waste of ram,,, 1 of my machines has a core 2 duo with 2gb of ddr2 800Mhz and i also have a Quad 6600 with 3 gb of ddr2 800Mhz all matched pairs, and i swear the 2gb is quicker,,, or im going daft maybe,,, :huh:
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 03:41 PM

Having a lot of memory and using a lot of memory are 2 different things. Up to a certain point, you'll get a speed increase if the RAM is the restrictive point in your resources. (more RAM = more speed). Then, once you reach the point where RAM is no longer limiting you, then you won't notice a difference.

For example, I've got 8 gB of RAM on my 64 bit system. I started with 4 gB on a 32 bit system. Upgrading to 64 bit (still with 4 gB) caused no speed increase (the theory here is that the extra RAM being recognized is offset by the extra needs of the 64 bit system). So, I upgraded to 8 gB of RAM - still no speed increase.

What I did notice tho', was a drastic increase in the ability to clutter my desktop and taskbar with extra stuff. I can play most games (with no lag) while I have IE7 w/6 tabs, Firefox w/22 tabs, 3 VM's running, Thunderbird, and other miscellaneous apps open. (More RAM = more stuff open without a decrease in performance).

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 04:26 PM

Even if you install 64-bit Vista, and you should if you have over 4GB of RAM, you will not get much of a benefit unless the application running can take advantage of the higher memory and/or 64-bit instruction sets. The OS and many recent popular programs, such as Crysis, The Witcher, and multimedia editing suites just to name a few, can utilize 64-bit. Older 32-bit apps will still run fine in the WOW64 environment, however 32-bit programs operating deep in the operating system might not function correctly. Such programs are few, like applications dealing with security or custom-made programs. In Vista, there is no major speed increase from 3 to 4 GB, however, users switching to 64-bit from 32 have said they believe 64-bit is a little faster during some tasks then 32-bit.

Items in memory in a 64-bit environment will take up slightly more space, but this is largely a minor issue if you have 4 GB or more of RAM. If you have 4 GB in a 32-bit environment, a portion of that will go towards other uses leaving 3.5GB or so for Windows to use. If you install 64-bit on that system, you have all 4 GB to use, making up for the inflated memory requirements of 64-bit.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 05:06 PM

you know if you install ubuntu-server (32 bit) you can see all of your ram??

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 05:21 PM

That question would be better asked in the Linux forum. There are some Linux kernels that have PAE that could help.

Ubuntu Forums - 8 GB Ram 64 bit or 32 bit Ubuntu server?
Ubuntu Forums - Get Ubuntu to address more than 4GB of RAM

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