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#1 angelpc

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 12:44 AM

I'm building a new computer for a friend it is the first since I have taken my A+class, and I've decided on the following components:

Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Socket AM2 Barebone Kit - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.20GHz OEM, 2GB Corsair DDR2 PC6400, ATX Clear Side Mid-Tower Case, 450 Watt Power Supply - From Tiger Direct

Motherboard: Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Motherboard - NVIDIA GeForce 6100, Socket AM2, ATX, Audio, Video, PCI Express, 10/100 Ethernet LAN, USB 2.0, Serial ATA, RAID

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Processor ADO4200IAA5CU

Cpu Fan: S457-1121 :: Masscool 5F9001B1H3 CPU Cooling Fan - Socket 939, 940, AM2

Memory: Corsair Dual Channel TWIN2X 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory (2 x 1024)
(I think I want to upgrade the memory to 4gb and maybe switch it to Kingston)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YD 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Case: PowerUp Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side and 450-Watt Power Supply

Optical Drive:L12-1166 OEM :: Lite-ON IHAS220-08 SuperAllwrite SATA 20x DVD Burner with Lightscribe OEM - 20x DVD±R Burn, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW, Black

Multi Flash Media Card Reader - M501-1186 :: Sabrent Internal 64-in-1 Multi Flash Media Card Reader - USB 2.0, Black, 3.5", Self Powered, SDHC Support, Vista Ready

Monitor: A179-1966 :: Acer X193Wb 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms, 2000:1, 1440x900(WXGA+), VGA, Black

OS: M17-7412 :: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit DSP OEM DVD

Keyboard / mouse: L23-7830 :: Logitech Deluxe 250 Desktop Keyboard And Mouse Combo - Optical, PS/2, Black

Speakers: C375-2100 :: Cyber Acoustics CA-2100 2-Piece Black Speaker System

& O261-8086 :: OCZ OCZTFRZTC Freeze Thermal Extreme Conductivity Compound

It is going to cost around 650-700 when all said and done, with shipping. I think there maybe some mail in rebates.

The pc that I am building is for someone who does not currently have one, and would like to get a pc to simply serf the web and receive email. Very basic use. There will be no gaming or graphics going on. There budget was between 600-700 for a complete system. I am totally open to suggestions. I choice AMD cause they seem to be cheaper and they also received pretty high reviews. Visit My Website
Should I put a 3.5 floppy drive in?
Also, I just wanted to make sure that all the components are compatible, will fit in the case, etc. Did I forget anything?

Thoughts?

THANK YOU

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 03:54 AM

With a better Processor, better Power Supply, and Kingston RAM:

Mobo - ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $46.99

**RAM - Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/2G - Retail - $28.99

**Harddrive - Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YD 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $44.99

**CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO5000DOBOX - Retail - $59.00 (includes heatsink & fan)

**PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply - Retail - $59.99 ($10 rebate)

**Optical Drive - LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail - $27.99

Card Reader - CABLES UNLIMITED USB-1610B All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail - $19.99

**OS - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit English 1pk for System Builders DSP OEI DVD - OEM - $99.99

**Monitor - Acer X193Wb Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2000:1 ACM - Retail - $129.99

Case - Rosewill R5601-BK 0.8mm Japanese Cold Rolled Steel Screw-less Dual 120mm Fans ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $59.99

Mouse/Keyboard - Microsoft FA6-00010 Black USB Wired Ergonomics Keyboard - OEM - $38.99

Speakers - Cyber Acoustics CA-2100WB 24 Watts 2.0 Speaker - OEM - $16.99

$633.89 + Shipping

** = Free Shipping

There's really no need for a floppy drive, unless he has a specific need for one.
Old tech, that's being phased out.

If you're going to go with 32-bit Vista, it will only be able to read approx. 3.5 GB of RAM, as with all 32-bit Operating Systems.
For the same price, I would opt for the 64-bit version (second one down, also with free shipping), and double up on the RAM.
A 64-bit Operating System can read over 100 GB of RAM.
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Edited by tg1911, 22 November 2008 - 04:11 AM.

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P, CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Deneb BE, HS/F: CoolerMaster V8, RAM: 2 x 1G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800, VGA: ECS GeForce Black GTX 560, PSU: Antec TruePower Modular 750W, Soundcard: Asus Xonar D1, Case: CoolerMaster COSMOS 1000, Storage: Internal - 2 x Seagate 250GB SATA, 2 x WD 1TB SATA; External - Seagate 500GB USB, WD 640GB eSATA, 3 x WD 1TB eSATA

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 04:05 AM

Remember, you should only get 64-bit Vista if you have 4 GB or more of RAM otherwise the PC may perform slower. RAM is cheap these days so go for more RAM and 64-bit Vista. For a general computing PC, this seems like a solid build.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 10:50 AM

DJBPace07- mine or the one that tg1911 posted?

Thank you so much tg1911 for your help.
I thought the same thing about the floppy, but in my class they told use we should always put one in.

I doubt that this person will be storing much of anything on ther pc, maybe some pics of their grandchildren. 3.5 GB of RAM should be plenty of space.?

So glad I found this site. It is a great resource! :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 02:29 PM

You're quite welcome, angelpc

I doubt that this person will be storing much of anything on ther pc, maybe some pics of their grandchildren. 3.5 GB of RAM should be plenty of space.?

RAM is not for the storage of files, it's a means to store data and instructions temporarily, for subsequent use by your system processor (CPU).
You store your pics, and other files, on the Harddrive.

I've listed a 250 GB Harddrive, above.
That's a lot of storage, for what it sounds like this person, is going to be using the computer for, but with the prices of Harddrives the way they are, why opt for something smaller.
In fact, I looked a the smaller 160 GB drive, with the same specs as the one listed above, and it's actually $15 more expensive. :thumbsup:

The main reason I suggested the 64-bit Operating System, over the 32-bit, is because it was the same price, and a 64-bit OS will handle RAM more efficiently.
Also, as you can see by the price above, RAM is cheap. :huh:
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P, CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Deneb BE, HS/F: CoolerMaster V8, RAM: 2 x 1G Kingston HyperX DDR2 800, VGA: ECS GeForce Black GTX 560, PSU: Antec TruePower Modular 750W, Soundcard: Asus Xonar D1, Case: CoolerMaster COSMOS 1000, Storage: Internal - 2 x Seagate 250GB SATA, 2 x WD 1TB SATA; External - Seagate 500GB USB, WD 640GB eSATA, 3 x WD 1TB eSATA

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 06:36 PM

The configuration tg1911 is a very solid build, I was referring to that one. The more RAM you have, the more information can be sent. When you don't have enough RAM, the computer uses your hard disk which is far slower. For instance, when you load an application, like Firefox or Word, the PC pulls the files from the hard drive and transfers it to the RAM where it is then sent to the processor. The more RAM you have, the more "stuff" can be loaded and immediately accessed. This is why when your PC is running slowly, it is often suggested to install more RAM. In Windows Vista, the operating system loads frequently used programs into memory. When the program is needed, it is quickly accessed from RAM instead of the hard drive, reducing loading times.

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