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Big Newb - Buying a gaming comp?


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#1 Cryptvill

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:23 PM

I know many of you on this forum probably get this question all the time - buy i am new and im looking for a gaming comptuer

Each person who is looking a computer is unique, so please - dont kill me for posting!! and hopefully i didnt post in the wrong place.

But here is what I am looking for:

-A comp for perferably under 2000 (perfect price would be around 1500, and i could go higher if 100% needed).

-I cannot build my own computer.

- I am looking to play high tech games on it, red alert 3, generals, all the fps shooting games etc. etc.

- I really only need the motherboard (hopefully i called it the right thing), I got some Insignia speakers (their pretty cheap), and I got a wireless keyboard + mouse, so i dont think I need those. But hell - if a bonus, why not? I got a Optiquest monitor, pretty large.


-I will use it for searching the web a bit to, but i would use my other old computer to search the kinda virus laden sites or whatnot.

-I am a sucker for looks .

I appreciate all the help and responses, links are really helpful as once again - i know 0% of this, have never bought a comp before.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:33 PM

http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Gaming-Computer

I know that you said you do not want to build...the above reflects considerations that, whether one builds or puchases...a prospective buyer should keep in mind (IMO) before throwing down any cash or honing in on one given system.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:35 PM

appreciate the link to help me understand the product better :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 01:32 PM

Yeah, I would recommend that you build.

To be honest, if you can work a screw driver, you can build a computer. The folks and I here at BC would help you if you decide to build. You also get more bang for your buck but if your absolutely opposed to building;

http://www.ibuypower.com/

They will build it for you.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:56 PM

Easily done :thumbsup:.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:55 PM

There are a number builders that will build the PC for you. They do differ in quality and service. Using resellerratings.com to compare the businesses will help in choosing. That site it a bit confusing to look view at first, just look for the store finder. There are other builders you can choose from I've listed them below along with links to their Resellerratings.

Maingear
Reseller Rating: 9.82

Puget Systems
Reseller Rating: 9.92

Velocity Micro
Reseller Rating: 8.49

iBuyPower
Reseller Rating: 7.05

Edited by DJBPace07, 17 November 2008 - 03:56 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:41 PM

appreciate the help.

i really like these ibuypower computers, they all look and seem amazing. Does anyone have a link to one paticular one I should be looking at?


i appreciaete all the help.

i was also looking at the maingear one : http://www.maingear.com/desktops/f131/

thank you

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:18 PM

I have the F131, in fact, I have that exact case. If you do go with Maingear expect to wait a few weeks to get the PC, they always seem to have a backlog. At the top of their webpage, if you click "community" you can go into their forums and ask more in-depth questions to both the builders and their customers. I chose to stay away from iBUYPOWER after I read a review that gave them a 2 out of 10. Here's the review. In all fairness, that review was over two years ago so things may have changed. But, the fact that they failed so completely and people in the [H]Forum say repeatedly to avoid them really stands out with me.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 12:58 AM

interesting.

so if i were to get the F131, what build do you think i should go with for an above average set up?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:51 AM

First, you need to know how much to spend. Maingear does offer a top-of-the-line Ephex PC at about 10K. I usually aim for 3000 to 3500 when purchasing, that gets me a good PC that lasts for several years. Reminder, you will save money building it yourself, but you already know that. Here's a review of the F131.

F131 - Intel (Note: Due to the different motherboard needed for i7, RAM amounts are a little strange)
I would make the following alterations:

Asetek Dual 120mm CPU Water Cooling System
ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5
Intel® Core™ i7-940 2.93GHz
6GB Kingston HyperX 1600MHz
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - SATA II
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Price $3500

F131 - AMD

Redline the system
ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5
AMD Phenom™ X4 9950 BLACK EDITION (2.6GHz x 4)
Asetek Dual 120mm CPU Water Cooling System
8GB Kingston HyperX PC2-6400 DDR2-800 (4x2GB)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - SATA II
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Price $ 2699

The Intel machine has the newer technology in it, but you'll be paying for it. The AMD system is not as powerful, but you'll save money. Note, Redlining and changing the chassis paint color will add time to your order since they use an automotive technique for painting and perform extra testing while Redlining.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:45 AM

Damn... 3000 is getting up there man, if I have to go that way, I will, but... you think theres any 1600-2000 dollar options that are very nice for gaming?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:04 PM

Oh of course, you didn't specify a price in your earlier posts. The F131 is their mid-high end desktops, the Ephex is the high, the Dash is for general family computing, and the Prelude is their mid range desktop.

Maingear Prelude - AMD (I made the following modifications)

1000W Silverstone Strider Power Supply (This is selected automatically if you choose the graphics card solution I did)
2x ATI Radeon™ HD 4870's 2GB GDDR5 in CrossFire™
AMD Phenom™ X4 9950 BLACK EDITION (2.6GHz x 4)
8GB Kingston PC2-6400 DDR2-800 (4x2GB)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - SATA II
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Price $1899

Maingear Prelude - Intel

1000W Silverstone Strider Power Supply (This is selected automatically if you choose the graphics card solution I did)
2x ATI Radeon™ HD 4870's 2GB GDDR5 in CrossFire™
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9550 (2.83GHz x 4) 45nm 12MB L2 Cache
8GB Kingston PC2-6400 DDR2-800 (4x2GB)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache - SATA II
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Price $2087

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 04:33 PM

ok i really really appreciate the help, and i think im going to go with the second one you have here (2087)

Now the graphics card - that is very very good one? I could play nearly any game i wanted to with it?

And do you think it would be smart to get two hard drives and do the "Raid 0 or Raid 1" (whatever that is??)


But once again - very helpful, 2000 is pretty much where i wanted to be at, a bit expensive, but i figure this will last me a good 5 years ish or more.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 05:41 PM

I was able to build a similarly powerful PC with more features at Newegg for less, but if you don't know how to build a PC (or are unable or unwilling to do so) the extra cost might make sense. You don't need RAID unless you have multiple hard drives with sensitive information. A normal backup procedure is adequate for most home users. The 4870 is a good card, but the 4870 X2 is even better. The Prelude has the 4870 in Crossfire, meaning two cards are linked to make for one very powerful graphics solution. You can get the same effect with the HD 4870 X2 card, which is AMD's most powerful card and is essentially two cards blended together onto one card. I think the reason Maingear does not offer the X2 card is the sheer size of the thing. Taken together, the 4870 in Crossfire is more powerful, in many games, than NVidia's top-of-the-line GTX 280.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 06:11 PM

i built this off cyberpower is this any good at all:

* CASE: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) A-Top Raptor Black Mid-Tower 420W Case with Side Panel Window
* CPU: Intel® Core™2 i7-940 2.93 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366
* MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard SAS Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA, Dual GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394a, & 7.1Audio
* MEMORY: (Req.DDR3 MainBoard) 3GB (3x1GB) PC1333 DDR3 PC3 10666 Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
* VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCI-E 16X 512MB DDR5 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
* VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
* VIDEO CARD 3: NONE
* LCD Monitor: NONE
* HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (750GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
* Data Hard Drive: NONE
* Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
* Optical Drive 2: NONE
* SOUND: Creative Labs SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-BIT PCI Sound Card




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