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Dell dimension 4600 Graphics card Problem


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#1 sweetcindi

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:30 AM

Hi..I have a dell dim 4600 with internal graphics card. Nvidia Gforce 5200.

When the computer starts, it goes to the windows logo, then pauses, then the monitor goes to the yellow light, not sure if
this is hibernation or what. But the computer stays on.

If I hit F8, I can get into safe mode with networking fine AND get onto the internet.

The computer graphics fail when I want to boot up normally.

Ive gone into the bios and set the time properly, but when I reboot again,the computer time changes.

I went to the Nvidia site and updated the driver for the card and it updated fine, restarted the p/c and
the same thing is happening.

Can someone help me here?

Going into the display properties doesnt seem to be helping either.....
Please give some advice.

I am fixing this for someone..he did have some trojans, could this have done something?


Thanks a bunch! :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 10:44 AM

One problem that can be addressed:

CMOS Battery Replacement - http://www.liverepair.com/encyclopedia/art...cmosreplace.asp

CMOS Battery. - http://www.geocities.com/micksmix2000/cmosbatt.html

Ignore the parts suggesting writing down CMOS settings.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:40 PM

Ok, but how can I narrow this down to see if this is the case? I know the time is always off. I set it and it changes. Is the only reason this will happen
because of a failing battery? If so, how is it that this would affect how the computer boots into safe mode no problem, but not normal mode?
Not being a smarty pants, just trying to understand the dynamics here. I see it is a lithium battery...can I buy this at a local drugstore or does it
need to be ordered online?

thanks a bunch!

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:06 PM

if you have another video card swap them out. or if this is an added card :with another video port: swap the ports.

or...try reseating your video card, check for dust etc..

Sounds like your video card is gone.

replace it

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:09 PM

sorry, didn't see this...."dell dim 4600 with internal graphics card. Nvidia Gforce 5200"

your graphics card is more than likely gone,
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:19 PM

Fair enough.

In the 11 years or so (I was scared of the system my first year) that I've been playing around with my own systems...I've seen two phenomena that make Windows a little crazy.

a. CMOS battery needs to be replaced. Effects noticeable: Time inaccurate, various error messages, system has problems that cannot be traced to logical causes.

b. RAM situations. RAM modules may be bad, may not be compatible, motherboard RAM sockets may be failing/damaged. Effects include a series of seemingly unrelated errors and system problems, with many of them pointing to usage of RAM by the system.

The cure for the CMOS thing...is available anyplace radio/watch batteries are sold (Walmart, Kmart, your large local grocer, your local pharmacy, etc.).

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 06:46 AM

Thanks guys for all your help. Im glad the battery can be bought locally! At least for now, the computer can get online with Safe mode
with networking. Its not totally dead. I will also try to verify that it may also be the graphics card.

I appreciate the advice!

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:54 AM

Keep us posted :thumbsup:.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 07:03 PM

Ok, going to try the battery. Will the new battery erase any info in the bios?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:13 PM

Yes...but it's not important.

When the new battery is inserted, the BIOS will employ default settings...which are probably the same settings used when you first got this system.

It should have no impact on much, other than the default boot options might change to something different. You can check those after you put the new battery in.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:04 PM

Ok, thank a bunch. When I try the battery, Ill let you guys know.

Take care...just watched Tropic thunder, what a riot~!

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 04:50 PM

Hello..ok, I put a new battery in, the time is correct now, but I am unable to still get into the bios. I hit F2 to get to setup and
it just takes me to the black screen where I can pick how I want to boot up.

I go to change bios order, I hit from CD, and it doesnt hold.

I was able to do a System file checker, amazingly, and that didnt seem to help any.

My system info on Assessories wont show me any info, thats corrupted
Cant get any info from RUN for msinfo or msinfo32, as windows says there is an error.

I unseated the graphics card, and put it in firmly, checked all connections, there is not another slot for me to put it in.
I also uninstalled old driver and downloaded an updated one.

The heatsink is running fine, but the fan above doesnt start when I put the computer on, at some point, it does come on.

Is there any way the BIOS is fatally corrupted?

I can get onto Last know good configuration now, where I couldnt yesterday. This happened after I did all the tweaking above.

So, I cant see it being a graphics issue, but perhaps Im wrong.

So, again, why the heck can't i get into normal mode? LOL....

Just to let you know, the diagnostic lights on the back of the dell are in good order..apparently the computer thinks its
running fine.

Thanks again for any continued help

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:04 AM

Just try one thing for me...I had a laptop in the office here couple months ago with very similar symptoms.

You say your able to get to safe mode....but will not boot into normal mode. If when you try to boot "normal" does the machine cycle then shut down while in xp splash screen?

If this happens, or just to rule out the vid card, when you boot into safe mode, go to the device manager, look at the "display adapter" expand it out, right click and "disable" the card. Don't do an uninstall because if you do the computer will reinstall when it reboots. restart the pc and try going into start computer normally. If you can get into normal mode without the vid card running which means windows is loading the "basic" vid card, then it is probably going to be a problem with the card.

Please keep us updated on its progress. we can get through it but we need to weed through everything one step at a time.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 09:23 AM

OMG OMG

You fixed my computer ! I cant believe it..its the video card, not the operating system...LOL


I restarted it twice to make sure it would go into normal mode again...

Thanks so much.....I cant tell you how grateful I am to everyone who has helped me.


I salute you blue coconut..go have a pina colada on me!

YAYAYAY!

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 08:49 AM

You are very welcome. Come back to see us.
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