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Sporadic or regular defragging


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Poll: How often do you defrag your computer? (43 member(s) have cast votes)

How often do you defrag your computer?

  1. More than once a week (4 votes [9.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.30%

  2. Once a week (13 votes [30.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.23%

  3. Every few weeks (9 votes [20.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.93%

  4. Once a month (6 votes [13.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.95%

  5. Several times a year (7 votes [16.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.28%

  6. Why bother? (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  7. What? (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

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#1 miles1973

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:33 AM

These days most self-confessed geeks, many teenagers and even middle-aged business men are downloading alot of information. Whether in a smaller compact file format such as mp3, or in a very large fragmented format such as bittorrent.

Defragmentation keeps your computer in good shape in both stability and performance.
Are you as lazy on maintaining your computer and keeping it clean as you were when you were 9 and asked to clean your room?

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#2 Leurgy

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:28 PM

I defrag according to what I'm doing. If I'm doing a lot of downloading and deleteing or installing and uninstalling a lot of software I'll do it more frequently. Generally its every couple or three weeks. I let it run overnight.

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#3 jgweed

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:34 PM

I do the same as Leurgy, and defrag as I think needed. This generally happens about once a month, although installing a new game or doing major hard drive file changes will initiate a mental call procedure for defragging. Depending on normal usage, though, it is certainly a good idea to have some kind of scheduled maintenance which would include, among other activities, defragging.
You may want to modify the original poll to included an "as needed" option, since the topic of the poll seems to be regular (and how often) versus sporadic and the latter is omitted from the poll options.
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Edited by jgweed, 04 May 2005 - 02:35 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:39 PM

Yes i do did nearly everyday... it may be not nessacry but i do it....

It makes my computer just run very smoothly without any problems

And if i don't do it i feel not good turning it off without defragmenting it.May sound stupid but i just do it everyday before i turn of the pc

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#5 WhyBeNormal

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:57 PM

I defrag about once a week. I figure that if I defrag frequently, it won't take as long the next time I do it. Besides, it only takes about 3 minutes. (91% free HDD)

Edited by WhyBeNormal, 04 May 2005 - 02:58 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:34 PM

I just do it when i think i haven't done it in a while. If something reminds me of defragging, and i know i haven't done it in a couple of weeks/months, i'll start it up.

............i should probably do it again...........

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:43 PM

once a week now i have system mechanic, i select the maintenance. it defrags, clears history, cleans registry (compacts also!), removes junk files, and removes adware and spyware !!! :thumbsup: in like under 3 hours, its worth getting. leave it on when you go to school or work
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 06:50 PM

once a week now i have system mechanic, i select the maintenance. it defrags, clears history, cleans registry (compacts also!), removes junk files, and removes adware and spyware !!! :thumbsup: in like under 3 hours, its worth getting. leave it on when you go to school or work

Is this the program you're talking about? http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_desc...fid,6522,00.asp
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:37 PM

yes it is! godbless all who download :thumbsup:
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Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:16 AM

Well I defrag about once every six months, and I've never experienced any problems (on my own system) that defrag fixed up. I don't install new applications very often, I use the ones I've already got, internet browsing, downloading files, a couple of major games, MS Office, accountancy package. I download images and create images on a file by file process.
Defrag - who needs it! :thumbsup:

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 07:44 AM

Sounds good.... a couple of extremes I think (namely Claudio and Rimmer). I guess you can over and underdo it!

Thanks for that link Seth, the program looks pretty good. I recently invested in Diskkeeper 9.0, which seems to be the market leader and has been great so far.
You can set it to automatic which is great, also to run in the background WHILE you are doing other things, which is even better.

Personally I think twice a week for regular downloaders is good. It makes a difference to me anyway! :thumbsup:

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 08:17 AM

Once a week I go into safe mode and run Scandisk/Defrag. Sometimes every four or five days. Depending on my usage. If I forget my system tends to lag. I find a marked system preformance after doing so.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 06:32 AM

In Windows XP, at least once a week, I will run the Disk Defragmenter, click the Analyze button, if there is not too many red bars show up, or if the graph is not all messed up, I will wait , up to 3 months or more, to run the Defrag. I must admit , I have never waited long enough for the pop-up, after you run analyze, to say "You need to defragment this volume" I think things would be really messed up by then. It usually takes 10 to 20 minutes to Defrag, using "my method of madness". Have a Great Day, Wink

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 08:10 AM

I thought that I would add this for informational purposes. It comes from the Help file in GEODisk2. Please note this program is ONLY available for Windows 98 and ME

This program can help overcome problems encountered such as when Defrag starts over and over as it will stop the running processes that cause this. There is also a handy little disk cleanup utility included.

What is the purpose of a defragmentation program?

When a file is created, MS-DOS tries to store all of the data end to end in a contiguous location on the disk. As other files are created, they are placed immediately behind the previously created file. However, if a file is subsequently modified, it may need more disk space than it originally got. If MS-DOS cannot find enough contiguous space to hold the modified file, it stores the excess in a noncontiguous location. This concept is illustrated below using numbers to represent a file clusters:

1111111 When file 1 is first created, all of its clusters are contiguous.
1111111222222 When file 2 is created, it is placed right behind file 1.
111111122222211 If the size of file 1 is later increased, its clusters must be separated because file 2's clusters are in the way and there is no room to store all of file 1's clusters together.

This separation of a file's parts, called fragmentation, is not a big problem because the FAT maintains a record of the location of each file's clusters. However, if a files individual clusters are noncontiguous (i.e., they are spread all over the disk surface and separated by the clusters of other files) the read/write heads have to spend extra time moving from track to track looking for all the bits and bytes needed to load the file into memory. The result is a degradation in disk operations.

DEFRAG makes the clusters in fragmented files contiguous. It does this by copying each of the fragmented file's clusters to an unused portion of the disk. It then rewrites the data back to disk so that all of the file's clusters are contiguous (continuous).

A defragmentation program like DEFRAG offers the following benefits:

Speeds up file access and improves disk operations.

Increases the chances for full recovery if a file is accidentally deleted.

Increases the disk space available for a swap file.

      What is DEFRAG and when should it be used?

Picture a stack of papers on a desk.  To organize them properly they have to be collated into a logical order.  If you did not do that you would have to keep jumping back and forth through the stack to read a complete file.  Defragmentation is essentially the collating process.
DEFRAG is the Windows disk optimization utility. Over time the files on a disk can become "fragmented" meaning that the pieces of a file are stored on the disk in separate, noncontiguous clusters. While fragmentation is a normal part of disk operations and does not affect data integrity, it does take longer to read and write to a fragmented file than to an unfragmented file. In addition, if a file is accidentally deleted, the chances for full recovery are much lower if the file was fragmented.

DEFRAG reorganizes the files on a disk so they are not fragmented. As a general rule, DEFRAG should be used anytime the percentage of unfragmented files falls below 92%.

Notes:
DEFRAG cannot be used to optimize a network or Interlink drive.
DEFRAG will not move system files (but it will move hidden files) .
DEFRAG will not work on a drive with less than 15% free space.
In general, SCANDISK should be run before using DEFRAG but this will not apply if you are doing frequent defragmentation.

    Why do we need DEFRAG anyway?

When Windows creates a new file on your hard drive, it will search for some empty space, and save the file at that location. When a file is deleted, you will get a hole at that location which is later filled by a new file and so on.

The problem is, not all files are of the same size. The solution is to split the files into smaller equally sized parts. This way, when you delete one file and save another one, the parts of the new file will fit into the holes of free space.
This works very well, but, after a while your files will be scattered all over your hard drive. When you try to read a particular file, your computer will have to search your hard drive for all the small parts.
This will obviously take a lot of time. (Imagine trying to read a book with the pages in random order.)

When you run DEFRAG, all the small file-pieces on your hard drive will be reorganized so that all the parts of a particular file are stored sequentially, in one place. This can increase the speed of your system considerably! (Especially if it has been running for a long time without defragging.)

    Why does DEFRAG take so long?

Depending on the degree of fragmentation in your file structure, defragmentation can be a long process.  If your drive is kept in good condition it usually completes fairly quickly.
When DEFRAG is reorganizing your hard drive, it is very important that no other programs are using the hard drive. If some program decides to save a file while you are defragging, the defragmentation process will often be interrupted and start all over again. Because of this, defragmentation may take a considerable amount of time or may not finish at all.


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Posted 07 May 2005 - 09:50 AM

I have Defrag set up in Task Scheduler once a week to analize. I usually Defrag once a month.

I waited one time for XP to tell me, and it was 3 months and took hours to Defrag, so I do it once a month. Same with Scan Disk, once a month.

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