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#1 darkestside

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 06:01 PM

This is my idea for a budget system. Best thing about this system is that it is overclockable, even with the stock cooler because the duel core CPUs are nice like that. I picked out a ATI 3870 because if you later want to crossfire your system you can do so, but I am a GeForce person, so I would go with a GeForce 8800 or 9800.

:huh: Motherboard - This motherboard was used for a review for the E5200 and E7200 and had good overclocking potential.
DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - $144.99

:huh: Processor - Raise the Vcore a bit for this processor and you could get up to 3.8ghz maybe 4.0ghz overclocking on stock cooling.
Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail - $83.99

B) Memory - If your gonna be overclocking you are going to need memory that can handle an increase in FSB.
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail - $46.99

:) Power Supply - If you have no plans on going with Crossfire or SLI you can reduce the wattage of this power supply down to about 430. I stand by Thermaltake Power supplies.
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail - $159.99

B) Video Card - I am a GeForce person, but this video card will be good setup in a crossfire configuration
SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - $119.99

:) Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $74.99

:bananas: CD-ROM
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD E-IDE/PATA DRW-2014S1 Black Bulk Burner - OEM - $19.99

:thumbup2: Case
Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $79.99

:thumbsup: Total - $730.92
Plus there's over $125 in mail in rebates, but of course don't count on these cause we all know how mail in rebates go.
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#2 dpunisher

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 10:45 PM

You are being optimistic on the prosessor overclock with stock cooling.
Ante up for 2X2GB memory.
The ATI 4830 is a much better card for about the same price.
Get a SATA DVD burner. No reason not to.

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:25 AM

Yes the overclocking isn't always guaranteed with stock cooling, but we can all hope. More memory can help but not gonna get the whole 4gb without a 64bit OS.

Edited by darkestside, 24 October 2008 - 12:28 AM.

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:27 AM

Looks good, Newegg has a SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB for a similar price to the ATI 4830 with a mail-in rebate. Remember with 4 GB of RAM you need a 64-bit OS to see and use all 4 GB of RAM. 32-bit Windows cannot be upgraded to 64-bit, it would require a new install. If you later decide to go 64-bit, keep this in mind.

Edited by DJBPace07, 24 October 2008 - 12:28 AM.

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#5 darkestside

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:30 AM

I'll look into that HD 4850 for sure thanks man.
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 01:18 PM

hi,,, vista is hdd hungry,,, for an extra $15 you can double the hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148294
good value.
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 10:32 PM

Wow that's a pretty good deal there on that 500gb HDD, although the only thing is that I will not be touching Vista until XP is finally in its unsupported state or unless I am forced to because my game Dark Age of Camelot won't be supported.



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Posted 25 October 2008 - 01:29 AM

I doubt Dark Age of Camelot will ever be supported on Vista, it was made in 2001. I don't see why the game wouldn't work with Vista, a search on Google seems to indicate it runs with SP1. I didn't think anyone was still playing that game.

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 09:37 AM

hi,,, also the 2 core is better on vista as multi core's were made for it and it take's advantage of multi's more than xp. I have'nt come across a game yet that xp can play but vista cannot,,, there will be some out there, but i aint seen 1 yet,,,, i say yet,,,lol
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 03:36 PM

hey you can go with this hdd if you want also
Seagate 640gb

This burner is good also
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 04:05 PM

Dark Age of Camelot can be played on Vista a few of our guild members run Vista and play DAOC, the only problems they have ever had was trying to get Ventrilo to work had to change a few settings in Vista. The game is slowly but surely dying because of all the new MMOs that are coming out but the players will eventually come back.

I do know that Vista utilizes the multiple cores a lot better than XP but I am waiting for a long time on Vista for Microsoft to smash out a lot more of its bugs. So until then I'll deal with XP.

I am going with the E5200 cause eventually when I have a bit more money I will upgrade it to an E8500 or whatever CPU Intel comes out with that will hopefully be compatible with the P45 chipset. That's also the reason I went with the P45 chipset because of the wide range of processors I could use. Was gonna start out with an E2160 but then I heard about the new E5200, was pretty amazed they made a new duel core that works on the 45nm architecture so I looked into it.

Does anyone know of a really good aftermarket CPU Cooler that I could get? No liquid cooling please way to much work for me.
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Posted 25 October 2008 - 07:43 PM

I use the ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler and think it is very good, and quiet. Most of the serious show-stopping bugs in Vista have been dealt with in SP1. SP2 should be released sometime next year since a beta is due out soon.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:30 AM

Here's the update.

:huh: Motherboard
DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - $144.99

:huh: Processor
Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail - $83.99

B) Memory - I am going to stick with 2gb I have no plans for Vista until I have no choice then I'll spend some more money.
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail - $46.99

:) Power Supply
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail - $159.99

B) Video Card - As DJBPace07 suggested, it's a good deal.
SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - $159.99

:) Hard Drive - I like keeping the primary hard drive small which is what I use for software and the operating system. Everything else from videos to music I place onto a secondary hard drive, the 640gb.
Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $74.99

:bananas: Hard Drive #2
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $79.99

:thumbup2: CD-ROM - I'll go with the SATA Asus Lightscribe that Lucky23 threw out there for me
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail - $35.99

:thumbup2: Case
Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $79.99

:thumbsup: Total - $866.91

This increases my cost by $135.99. I can always get a smaller power supply and save some money there. Or save like 5 dollars and go from a retail DVD-RW to a OEM DVD-RW. I could also switch out the motherboard for an P45 Chipset Intel Motherboard and forget any chances of overclocking at all, not that I will honestly need to do so in the first place.

Edited by darkestside, 30 October 2008 - 01:30 AM.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:55 PM

This power supply is really good and cheaper its 780max power and 650 continous
and its only $70 after rebate.
Cooler master 650

Are you planning on doing SLI or X Fire?
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:38 AM

Well apparently with that motherboard or an Intel Motherboard it would be setup as Crossfire. At the moment I don't know of any SLI boards that support the E5200 or the E8500. Would not really need a super extravagant motherboard that's for sure. Nothing costing like 250-400 dollars lol. Gotta save money here you know with how the economy is running.
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