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Need to copy a hard drive and all contents to another one with an operating system already on it but dont want to lose information on either


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#1 Nooodle

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 11:01 AM

I need to copy all the contents off of and including the operating system of an Widows XP Pro onto a bigger hard drive that has Windows Xp home are there any good freeware programs out there that could help me do this and to be able to dual boot both operating systems to access the information from both?
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Posted 23 October 2008 - 11:14 AM

If you have a Seagate or Maxtor hard drive you could use the Seagate Disk Wizard which incoporates a copy of Acronis True Image. This is bundled and may only be applicable to these two drives, I also don't know exactly what the difference is between this and the retail version.

I don't know of a freeware that will do this, at least that I could recommend.

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 11:41 AM

There are plenty of free imaging utilities out there - but I'm not familiar with them.
There may be difficulties in moving XP from one hard drive to another - I'd suggest reading this article before proceeding: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
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Posted 23 October 2008 - 01:00 PM

ok, i read artical but doesent say much about putting two differant windows operating systems on one hard drive and being able to run both from same computer. I may not be able to to do this and i accept that, is there an option to possable be able to put my 250 gig hard drive into the xp pro system as a slave drive and copy paste all info off of it onto the other one?
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Posted 23 October 2008 - 01:14 PM

If you expect one program to do all these different functions...good luck.

You seem to want two things:

a. A dual-boot. Nothing particularly hard about that.

b. You want software capable of cloning an existing partition. Requires specialized software, but plenty of such software around.

I think you need to understand that this should be a 2-stage process...clone the partition to a hard drive first, then setup your other operating system as your dual-boot. All that should involve is a little editing of the boot.ini file of the XP Home install. Members here can guide you through that.

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 02:10 PM

ok i havent even started the process yet. I just want to make sure i have all my ducks in a row and know EXACTLY what i am doing before i start this. theres a lot of information on both hard drives i want to put on to one. what im doing to explain a little further into detail it going to try to transfer all info off the XP pro hard drive to the 250gig XP home, then take the xp pro hard drive and put in the old machine that the XP home came out of and reinstall XP home on it so my son can have a working computer. I hope this makes sense LOL.
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Posted 23 October 2008 - 02:42 PM

You do understand, of course...that you require a valid license every time that you install an O/S on a system?

That means: dual-boot requires two licenses, each additional install requires one license.

Net result: 3 licenses needed for 2 systems.

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 04:49 PM

ok scratch the two systems on one hard drive i just want the files from one on the other then im going to switch the hard drives to differant machines, i want the big hard drive in my computer and the smaller one in another. both have valid xp operating systems on them. I understand that i will have to validate them both upon reinstalling them to seperate motherboards and that is fine. Although i recently bought the xp pro from a computer repair shop and dont have install disks or the serial numbers for it it is however a valid copy

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 06:59 PM

If you don't care about the installed programs or specifically whether each hard drive has XP professional or home it is probably a better idea just to use some removable storage (like an external hard drive) to copy the personal data that you do care about from one hard drive to the other in stages (do a few GB at a time) until you have everything that you want on the desired computer. Then delete all of your files from the computer you want to give to your son and just save the hassle of copying the whole hard drive or any sort of disk formatting that you may plan to do. Leave program files alone as any programs that you want on your computer should be installed directly on the computer rather than brought over via file transfer.

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 07:09 PM

By imaging, it seems that you hope to avoid the process of a clean install.

Well...if you are going to put those XP installs on completely different systems/motherboards...a clean install is the best solution for each, IMO.

IMO, you are creating more work for yourself with your approach...and the end products are NOT guaranteed to work properly, once these transformations are done.

But...these are your systems and you can do whatever you want.

A couple of links that may be useful:

Swapping your board without so much as a reinstall - http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/fo.../1400925745/p/1

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/move_harddrive.htm

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Posted 23 October 2008 - 08:59 PM

Sounds good, Thank you Guys for all the helpful information.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 12:10 PM

Provided you can mount both hard disks on your computer you can use the Windows Backup routine to copy files and folders from one to the other. On my computer the program is labelled NTBACKUP.EXE and it allows me to selectively backup folders and files. I have used it and it works fine. I have not used it for cloning, which is a different process.

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