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#1 Guest_Abacus 7_*

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:29 AM

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 03:41 AM

in Win 98 section; http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522

move to Hardware section maybe ?

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 04:16 AM

Been meaning to ask?

How can this be the same as the next one to the same thing?

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522

It is a little confusing?

Seperately they supply the Link but together there seems a Conflict?

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Edited by Abacus 7, 20 September 2008 - 04:23 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2008 - 04:37 AM

All taken care of.
Thanks everyone.

Been meaning to ask?

How can this be the same as the next one to the same thing?

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522

It is a little confusing?

Seperately they supply the Link but together there seems a Conflict?

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Not sure what your asking, Abacus 7.
I get a 404 ERROR: Page Not Found!, when clicking your links.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 05:50 AM

All taken care of.
Thanks everyone.

Been meaning to ask?

How can this be the same as the next one to the same thing?

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522

It is a little confusing?

Seperately they supply the Link but together there seems a Conflict?

:flowers:

Not sure what your asking, Abacus 7.
I get a 404 ERROR: Page Not Found!, when clicking your links.


That is what I am talking about?

If you scroll back to My Link me for and also Ruby 1's Link it is to the same Thread? Yet both are different? Put them togther, and it is an Error Message?

Yet Both the Previous Links work? That is quite Odd?

That is what make me Curious?

Just as a Test?

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334

Go to Post 13 of this Thread?

It works there, same if you look up Ruby 1's Post 15???????

Could it be a form of Malware?

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Edited by Abacus 7, 20 September 2008 - 06:58 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2008 - 09:02 AM

That link doesn't work.

In Post#16 it looks like you just copy/pasted the URLs displayed on the page, in Post's 13, and 15.
Those are incomplete URLs.
The board shortens long URLs, so the displayed URL is not the same as the actual URL.
Notice the "..." in the displayed URLs.
This makes them incomplete URLs, which causes the board error.

If you would have right-clicked the URL, and selected "copy URL location" (or something similar, depending on the browser you use), it would have given you the whole URL, instead of a truncated version.

The URL you posted in Post #16, compared to the actual URL:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=167238&view=findpost&p=933522

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/167238/keyboard-issues-and-loading-bios/?p=950334
The second ones would redirect you to the correct link.
The first ones will cause 404 Error's.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:30 AM

That link doesn't work.

In Post#16 it looks like you just copy/pasted the URLs displayed on the page, in Post's 13, and 15.
Those are incomplete URLs.
The board shortens long URLs, so the displayed URL is not the same as the actual URL.
Notice the "..." in the displayed URLs.
This makes them incomplete URLs, which causes the board error.

If you would have right-clicked the URL, and selected "copy URL location" (or something similar, depending on the browser you use), it would have given you the whole URL, instead of a truncated version.

The URL you posted in Post #16, compared to the actual URL:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=933522
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=167238&view=findpost&p=933522

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/top...tml#entry950334
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/167238/keyboard-issues-and-loading-bios/?p=950334
The second ones would redirect you to the correct link.
The first ones will cause 404 Error's.


Hmm? OK.

But why are the links to the same Post Different?

I have noticed it several times?

Is there different ways to Post a Link?

I would love to know how to do that.

The crazy part of this is both? Not sure about Ruby 1, were Posted by Copy and Paste as is Normal for busy people. Both worked until they both came together on one Page? That is quite unusual, each was to the same Thread, worked individually, yet they have a different Code,yet together it is an Error for each one?

Edited by Abacus 7, 20 September 2008 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2008 - 11:04 AM

It looks like ruby1 linked direcly to the first post.
To the top right of each post, there is the post #, which is a link.
The number is a link to that post.
By copy/pasteing that URL into a post, you can direct someone to a particular post, in a topic.

That is quite unusual, each was to the same Thread, worked individually, yet they have a different Code,yet together it is an Error for each one

Them coming together has nothing to do with them not working.
Like I said in my last post, you didn't use valid URLs.
That's why the links didn't work.

Thanks, dc3.
Topic has been moved.

Edited by tg1911, 20 September 2008 - 11:06 AM.

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:09 PM

It looks like ruby1 linked direcly to the first post.
To the top right of each post, there is the post #, which is a link.
The number is a link to that post.
By copy/pasteing that URL into a post, you can direct someone to a particular post, in a topic.

That is quite unusual, each was to the same Thread, worked individually, yet they have a different Code,yet together it is an Error for each one

Them coming together has nothing to do with them not working.
Like I said in my last post, you didn't use valid URLs.
That's why the links didn't work.


But why do the links from 13 and 15 still work seperately to this? Yet together they don't?

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:45 PM

Hello Abacus,

I have split your posts and tg1911's responses concerning how links work from the Tidiness thread to its own topic. This is to keep the Tidiness thread tidy and so other folks with the same question may find a solution here. :flowers: For the purposes of context, I have kept the original links that have triggered your question.

Let's see if I can answer your question.

There are several ways to link to a topic.

Here is the link to the full topic from the top of the page:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/167238/keyboard-issues-and-loading-bios/

Ruby1's link was specifically for post 1 of that topic:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/167238/keyboard-issues-and-loading-bios/?p=933522


Look at the code in the box above. Do you see the number right after showtopic= That number is 167238. Notice that is the same as the number in the first link I posted here.

Now look at the code for the link you posted:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/167238/keyboard-issues-and-loading-bios/?p=950334

The structure of the link is a bit different; however, notice the number directly after the word "topic". It is the same as in the previous two links. All three links go to the same topic as indicated by the topic number.

Now, here are the differences. My link contains no entry number. ruby1's and yours do.

ruby1's link to post number 1 has an entry number of 933522. You can see that right after the word "entry" at the end of the link.

Your link to post 3 of the topic has a different entry number, 950334, as seen at the end of your link after the word "entry".

With ruby1's link, you go right to the top of post one, you don't see any of the forum stuff above it without scrolling. With your link, you go directly to post 3, and you don't see any of the topic above it without scrolling.

Does this answer your question?

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:59 PM

Maybe what I did has 'confused' the issue? :thumbsup:

Let me show you what I did

this link http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/170429/confusion-about-links-and-how-they-work/

should go direct to this topic thread in the forum

and THIS one
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...st&p=950444

shoudl link you to post number three IN this thread

the ability to directly link to a specific post in a thread is a 'tool' I recently came across quite by accident ...so used


does that help... :flowers:

also; goto the top right corner of any posting and you will see the words 'post' and a number? hover the mouse over it to see the words 'show a link to this post '

Maybe try it in the Test area or on this thread?

Edited by ruby1, 20 September 2008 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:10 PM

I've already explained that to him, ruby1.
He not understanding that the links he posted in Post #3 are invalid URLs.

Them coming together has nothing to do with them not working.
Like I said in post #6, you didn't use valid URLs.
The links you provided were, no good.
That's why the links didn't work.

Edited by tg1911, 20 September 2008 - 01:15 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:20 PM

I have been having posting links using the code tags for 2 months. Another HJT team member had the same problem as I do and we still can't figure out the problem
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:27 PM

Honestly, Orange Blossom,

If one clicks on either of the two individual Links they work, yet click on either one together next down, neither one works?

That just does not Compute, no way it should happen.

Never ever saw this before!

I am just a pig headed Aussie, I am sorry?

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 01:28 PM

I have been having posting links using the code tags for 2 months. Another HJT team member had the same problem as I do and we still can't figure out the problem

Is the linking problem noted to be in one specific area/section of the forum or from all sections?




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