Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

A Curious Semi-freeze-up On My Pc


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 brimag

brimag

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:04 PM

At any time - but usually when the PC has recently been turned on - I find that although all active programs continue to work okay, I am unable to start new programs for a period of time. Usually a few minutes wait. For example, I can continue to use my browser no problem but starting Word, or anything else, doesn't cause anything to happen. When the PC springs back to life, all the extra programs that I had requested start at once (including, for example, Task Manager). The problem includes inability to logoff or turn the PC off for this period of time.

I have firewall (Zonealarm), antivirus (AVG), Windows defender, Wndows Update, etc, etc. I've had the problem for months with no variation in the severity of symptoms. I seem to dimly recall having a good look at Windows event logs to see if I could see something happening when the PC sprang into life, but to no avail.

My kids want a new PC, but there must be a better way!

Hope you can help.

BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 cryptodan

cryptodan

    Bleepin Madman


  • Members
  • 21,868 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Catonsville, Md
  • Local time:04:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:06 PM

Can you list your system specs?

#3 hamluis

hamluis

    Moderator


  • Moderator
  • 56,573 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Killeen, TX
  • Local time:10:16 AM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:08 PM

How much RAM installed?

Hard drive size and how much free space?

Tried running chkdsk / and then defragging? The Graphical Version of chkdsk may be used in lieu of chkdsk /r.

XP Chkdsk, Using the Graphical Version (My Computer) - http://www.updatexp.com/windows-xp-chkdsk.html

Louis

#4 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:12 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

Sorry for not giving some extra information up-front.

It's Windows XP Home. Version 2002. Service Pack 3
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ 2.19 GHz 512MB RAM
2x120GB hard drives.

Any extra info I should give?

#5 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:14 PM

Loads of free hard-drive space.

I've run defrag and chkdsk without any improvement.

#6 cryptodan

cryptodan

    Bleepin Madman


  • Members
  • 21,868 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Catonsville, Md
  • Local time:04:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:17 PM

How many programs do you have in your system tray by the clock. 512Megs is hardly enough RAM for having a lot of programs up and running.

#7 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:18 PM

Number of icons next to clock: including all the "routine" ones like internet connection, 12.

Maybe I need extra RAM?

#8 cryptodan

cryptodan

    Bleepin Madman


  • Members
  • 21,868 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Catonsville, Md
  • Local time:04:16 PM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:24 PM

I would definitely get at least 2Gigs into that machine.

#9 hamluis

hamluis

    Moderator


  • Moderator
  • 56,573 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Killeen, TX
  • Local time:10:16 AM

Posted 13 September 2008 - 06:04 PM

Is XP managing your virtual memory?

Start...right-click on My Computer...click Properties...Advanced tab, click Settings button at top...click Advanced tab...go down to Virtual Memory, click Change. Select System Managed Size, push Set, push OK

Reboot.

You might as well let your hard drive space work for you.

IMO opinion, a system works fine with 1GB, I've run XP with 387MB without problems.

Considering how inexpensive RAM is these days, more RAM would not hurt.

Louis

#10 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 20 September 2008 - 11:43 AM

Thanks for everyone who has posted in reply to this question.

Allowing XP to manage the virtual memory has done the trick!
I guess that having extra RAM will improve things, so I've ordered an extra 1GB, which will bring the total up to 1.5GB and will hopefully be sufficient to fix things.
Once I install the extra memory, is it a good idea or not to reverse the virtual memory change so that it is back to what it used to be?
Lastly, when you install extra RAM, is it just a case of plugging it into the one available slot (with the machine turned off!) having touched the radiator to try and get rid of any static, then turning the PC on?

Many thanks.

#11 cryptodan

cryptodan

    Bleepin Madman


  • Members
  • 21,868 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Catonsville, Md
  • Local time:04:16 PM

Posted 20 September 2008 - 11:49 AM

In all honesty, I would have gone for more RAM then just 1 gig. RAM is so cheap now a days.

replacing RAM is just a simple pop in the new RAM. Its a piece of cake. Just make sure you dont shock it with static.

#12 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:01 PM

When I looked at the cost of RAM, it was 24 for 1GB (effectively 1.5GB as I could use the existing memory), 71 for 3GB (having removed the existing memory), so I decided to go for the cheaper option. If it doesn't fix it, I'll buy some more having learnt my lesson! And it won't cost my anymore in the long-run as there's no discount for multiple purchase.

Any views on the "virtual memory" setting question?

Cheers

#13 cryptodan

cryptodan

    Bleepin Madman


  • Members
  • 21,868 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Catonsville, Md
  • Local time:04:16 PM

Posted 20 September 2008 - 12:06 PM

Any views on the "virtual memory" setting question?

Cheers


Let windows Manage it.

#14 brimag

brimag
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 7 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK
  • Local time:05:16 PM

Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:02 PM

Many thanks for all your help.

I've just installed extra RAM and machine is working fine. Now takes 3mins30secs to get to 1st webpage from turn-up cf to 5mins15secs previously. And, yes, the freezing has stopped happening.

You've made me very happy - kids less so 'cos I'm not getting a new PC anymore!

Thanks again!




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users