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#1 Mendetus

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Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:57 PM

Okay- What I'm looking for is a system that will:

1- Run Warhammer Online well

Min Requirements:
2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
2 Gigabyte RAM
A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
At least 15 GB of hard drive space

2- Have expansion options for the future

3-Try to stay around $500 but obviously low as possible

I'll list below what I've picked out but I want to know if you guys (gals) have any advice/opinions/personal preferences towards my build before I buy a bunch of components that won't work well together, or be a ripped off. Yeah, not totally great with hardware so if you wonder why I picked "x" ram with "x" processor, please lend some advice, thanks =).

Ohh, planning on going 64 bit vista.

Processor:
(Fan comes with it, but not sure if heat-sink does?)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...p?EdpNo=2207256

MotherBoard:
(Ratings seemed really good)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=2320

VideoCard: (I could do crossfire with the onboard apparently if I went ATI but I just want this thing to work right for now- I'll go ATI in the future if I need an upgrade)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...mp;Sku=P56-8810

HDD:
(Not for mass storage- bought it mostly for sata and 7200 rpm + ratings/price)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...5&CatId=139

RAM:
(4 GB's)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=2261

Case with 500w powersupply+fan=
(Kind of iffy on this one)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...&CatId=1845

Okay so being my first time I also have a couple questions. What would a good powersupply be- I tried to use one of the calculators for it but it only showed up about 350w but that seemed low to me, though I could be wrong. I don't know much about the power supplies or what to look for so any help with that would be great. Also difference between dual channal DDR2 and single DDR2?? Is it always better to go Duel channel and does it take the same amount of ram slots?

Sorry for all the info, I figured it would be best to give more than less. I hope all the links work right :x

So yeah to sum it up again- around $500 budget, the cheaper, the better- a system to hopefully exceed those minimum req's and room to upgrade later.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 01:09 AM

Your processor does come with a fan. I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler if you the cash to spare, they cool better. I suggest the ATI HD 4850 for a graphics card. I found one from Asus at NCIX that has a mail-in rebate. NCIX is running a special on one from Palit. without a rebate. This card is better in many ways to the one you suggested but is about $50 more. The PSU's that come with some cases typically aren't that good. I suggest getting a power supply from Corsair or Silverstone, two very reputable companies. Dual channel RAM is installed in matching pairs. Dual channel memory increases the data throughput from the RAM to the memory controller reducing a bottleneck. For more room to upgrade later, I suggest getting a motherboard with two PCIe x16 slots that allow for Crossfire such as the MSI K9A2 CF-F V2. The Hybrid Crossfire system on the motherboard you chose works with certain cards only.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 04:12 AM

Re processor

This is the retail version so will have Heatsink as well as Fan.
OEM versions of the same processor are cheaper and they don't come with a heatsink or fan.
If you are planning to go down the aftermarket cooler route then think about the OEM version. That way you won't be paying of a heatsink and fan that you are not going to use.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:13 AM

If you're going to go with an aftermarket fan/heatsink, just remember to save the original and the paperwork for RMA purposes
Also, don't forget the thermal compound
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:19 AM

the power unit has only one sata cable with two plugs. If you have a sata hard drive and a sata cd drive it won't reach. You will have to install an adapter.


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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:30 AM

Thanks a lot guys, appreciated: looks like I'll have to make some changes-
although one question still sort of hanging.. is 500w pretty sufficient for what I'm looking at generally?

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:40 AM

is 500w pretty sufficient for what I'm looking at generally?


yes and no, depends upon the brand and spec's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817153052

newegg doesn't do canada yet


this is the minimum I would put in that setup but i would rather go for

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....amp;Order=PRICE

power supplies and mobo's are the heart of a computer and the first things to go when you buy too cheap
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 10:06 AM

I called and spoke to tech services at Ultra and was told that PSU in this case has a 12V rail @28A. If this PSU was a from a manufacturer like PC Power & Cooling, Antec, or Thermaltake I would feel comfortable with it, but PSUs that are supplied with cases typically are of a lessor quality. The specs are closed enough to not meeting your minimum specifications that I would think about purchasing a better quality product that meets the minimum requirements for the PSU.

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