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#1 oxojohn

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 04:15 PM

Hello to all.

Hope you can help, system restore will not work, all previous restore points have vanished and it will not create a new one.

I have 82GB free space on my hard drive and System Properties tells me its on and monitoring.

Thanks.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:19 PM

Both worth reading
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q301224/

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm
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#3 oxojohn

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:21 AM

Many thanks Mark for posting the links.

I have read through them but because of my lack of expertise with computers I am
totally lost.

Thanks again.

John.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:34 AM

Try BackOnTrack from Roxio.
It's much better than xp's system restore and you can restore your pc even if it dosn't load windows at all. Not even in safe mode.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 12:05 PM

Hi MicThim.

At the moment whilst System Restore is out of action, I was recommended and I am using " ERNDT" http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ which is a FREE program.

Apparently It auto backs up the registry if set up that way when you log-on.

To be honest, I do not know if it does the same job as System Restore.?? if it doesn't and I cannot
get System Restore to work again, I shall have to try your "BackOnTrack"

Many thanks.

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:13 PM

Here's what System Restore monitors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Restor...urces_monitored
It can be (AFAIK) customized with a bit of XML to include/remove stuff from it's process.

The BackOnTrack software appears to be an imaging utility (like Acronis True Image which I use and recommend) - it'll save the entire contents of your disk. But, there's cautions to use with it:
- it takes up large amounts of storage space (a backup is usually smaller)
- it takes a while to backup the entire disk (a backup is usually quicker)
- it backs up Windows system files (which you don't need in a backup, but do need if you're going to restore the system)
- it will put your system back to the way it was the day that you made the image (which means it'll wipe out anything done since then).
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Posted 31 August 2008 - 07:26 AM

Hello usasma thanks for the information.

The question is, will "ERDNT" http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ that I am using now, do the same job as system restore until I sort or "if" I sort the problem out.

I have a program that I purchased a while back now that I have never used called "Norton Ghost 9.0" I bought it to copy everything on my computer to a remote hard drive that I also purchased but have never used!

At the moment I am going through the link to http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm that garmanma was kind enough to post, but have come as far as the "event log" where there are many faults registered and highlighted in red which I cannot understand so I do not know what to do next.



Troubleshooting System Restore in Windows XP

To troubleshoot System Restore issues, try one or more of the following steps:

- If you receive an error message that is related to System Restore, always make sure that you first record the error message
and follow the instructions that the error message contains to try to resolve the issue. Most System Restore issues generate
an error message that contains a description of the issue and suggestions for how to resolve the issue.
- Make sure that you have enough disk space on all of the drives on which System Restore is enabled.
- Make sure that the System Restore service is running by using one of the following methods:

- Check in Control Panel:

1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and Maintenance".
2. Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, and then click Services and Applications.
3. Click Services, and then click System Restore Services.

- Open a command prompt window:

1. Click Start, click Run, and then type "CMD" (without the quotation marks).
2. Press the ENTER key, and then type "Net Start" (without the quotation marks) at the command prompt to make sure that
the System Restore service is up and running.

- Make sure that System Restore is enabled on the drives that you want System Restore enabled on.
- Try to run System Restore in Safe mode.
- If you suspect that you do not have as many restore points as you should have, make sure that the data store is the size that
you want the data store to be.

- Check the event logs to investigate System Restore service errors:

1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and Maintenance".
2. Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, double-click Event Viewer, and then click System.
3. Click the Source tab to sort by name, and then look for "sr" or "srservice." Double-click each of these services, and then
evaluate the event description for any indication of the cause of the problem.




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Posted 31 August 2008 - 07:55 AM

No, ERUNT will not do the exact same job as System Restore - but it will do the major part (backing up the registry).

The Roxio program is basically the same as the Ghost program. I'd suggest using it now, just in case something goes wrong and you're not able to restore. Also, backup your data regularly as this will make it less painful should the system stop working.

As for the Event Log, try the first 2 posts in this link: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/40108/how-to-use-event-viewer/
What we're looking for is some of the errors that are related to this problem - if you can figure out a pattern that occurs, or a similar error that repeats itself - that's what we'll need to know.
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Posted 31 August 2008 - 08:58 AM

No, ERUNT will not do the exact same job as System Restore - but it will do the major part (backing up the registry).

The Roxio program is basically the same as the Ghost program. I'd suggest using it now, just in case something goes wrong and you're not able to restore. Also, backup your data regularly as this will make it less painful should the system stop working.

As for the Event Log, try the first 2 posts in this link: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/40108/how-to-use-event-viewer/
What we're looking for is some of the errors that are related to this problem - if you can figure out a pattern that occurs, or a similar error that repeats itself - that's what we'll need to know.



Many thanks for the information Usasma.

Another question if I may, I am going to download and use Ghost to backup as advised, can I back it up onto my remote hard drive so as not to use the space on the computer. (hope this is not a silly question)

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 11:14 AM

It's preferable to do it to an external drive - both because it'll take up a lot of room, and should the drive in the system fail you won't be able to access it there.
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Posted 31 August 2008 - 11:23 AM

Oh Good.

Many thanks again.

Regards

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 04:02 PM

After going through "event Properties" this Error happens every day.
Would it be possible that it may have a link to system restore not working.

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 04:15 PM

This error is about the UPnP service not being able to be started. It could be disabled, or it could be that there's nothing available for it to access. I don't think it's related to the Restore Point creation thing.

Try creating a Restore Point and see if there's any errors at that time. If not, then note the time and reboot the computer - then look for errors during bootup.
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Posted 01 September 2008 - 02:26 AM

I tried creating a Restore Point but it will not allow it, and the calender is showing no restore points available.

I rebooted making a note of the time as sugested and it came up with one error. (below)


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Posted 01 September 2008 - 04:05 PM

This fix seems to have the greatest success for your problem: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...php/t96264.html

More suggestions here:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...d448fe53abdb360
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840686
http://www.adras.com/Generic-Host-Process-...t.t445-3-1.html
http://www.xpbanter.com/archive/index.php/t-8935.html
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/archive/i...p/t-222220.html
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