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#1 johntesh

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:41 PM

I just had a problem with some trojans, wiped my computer clean and freaked out about identity theft. I had been using Symantec Anti-Virus, Ad-aware, Spybot, Windows Defender, and CCleaner. The firewall I used was the one that came with XP.

Now that there is nothing on my harddrive and I do not want to go through this again, I want better protection. I use my computer often to buy stuff online via my credit cards and checking account. If I decided to go with an "internet security suite," would I need to use any of the programs I listed above? It would appear that security suites do everything, whereas anti-virus programs just look for virus, not adware and other bad things. Is going the suite route a good idea or should I just get a better anti-virus program combined with all those free programs? Does anyone have experience with them?

I am currently looking a Kkaspersky Internet Security 2009. It just came out about a month ago and appears to be $80 in stores. Just the anti-virus program is around $50, so for $30 more you get a firewall and a bunch of other stuff. Could I buy that and not have to worry about downloading anything else for protection?

http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_internet_security

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 02:57 PM

Use only 1 antivirus and 1 firewall. If you run more than one of each they can conflict with each other.
Yes, you should keep Spybot, Adaware, or whatever other malware scanners you choose.
As for suites vs. stand-alone products, that is personal choice. Suites generally use more resources than stand-alones.

BEFORE PURCHASING KASPERSKY: go to the site you linked to. Download and install the 30 day trial version. There is no one size fits all when it comes to computer security. What works for me may not play nice with your system. A trial will allow you to find out if the program does play nice with your computer. You'll also get to find out if it's user friendly. It won't take you long to find out if you like it.
If you decide it isn't what you want, simply uninstall and find something else. No need to pay for something then find out it doesn't work well for you and your system.

An alternative: there are several excellent FREE programs available.

There is a list here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic3616.html

If you have any questions about any of the programs, ask and they will be answered.

edit to add: my arsenal includes (all free products)
Comodo firewall
AVG antivirus (it came installed on the pc)
SuperAntiSpyware
Spybot

Edited by Queen-Evie, 12 August 2008 - 03:00 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2008 - 03:26 PM

I think I will download the free trial first. It says it is fully functional but I'm not entitled to tech support. Plus it gives me some time to find the best deal :thumbsup:

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 04:21 PM

Good choice to make. Taking advantage of trial offers one of my soapbox issues.

If you do like the program, wait until it gets real close to the 30 day limit.
Then check your email (if you have to provide one for Kaspersky for the trial)-a lot of times the makers of a program will offer you a discount to buy the product when the trial expires.

Edited by Queen-Evie, 12 August 2008 - 04:24 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2008 - 01:40 PM

Well, I've been doing some research and a lot of people seem to think internet security suites are bad for two reasons. One, they each up a lot of your computer's resources. Two, their anti-'whatever' usually aren't as good as stand alone products.

This is what I currently have. I've paid for nothing (besides the router). My internet is set-up behind a Linksy wireless broadband router. Is that considered a hardware firewall? I've never set it up to be one (just plugged everything in and the internet worked), so I really don't know if it automatically is or not. My XP firewall is on and I'm not allowing any exceptions. I'm hesitant to get something like Comodo since I really don't know much about firewalls and I've read they bug the heck out of you and you need to know what you're doing to respond to the messages. Is a router and the XP firewall sufficient or should I really look into learning to use another firewall?

I currently have AVG 8.0 free for anti-virus. It kinda bothers me I'm using a free AV. I may upgrade to one of the better paid AV programs (love to hear some recommendations).

For spyware I've got Spybot (with Tea Timer running) and Ad-aware Free. I run CCleaner once a week.

I've got some Firefox addons for security that I never used before. They are Adblock Plus, McAfee SiteAdvisor, and NoScript.

What do you guys recommend? I don't mind paying for something if it is really good.

I've also come to the conclusion that it is nearly impossible to keep your PC clean :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 August 2008 - 02:12 PM

Comodo does bug the user quite a bit, but you can change the way it alerts the user. have you also considered using spywareblaster?
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
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Posted 14 August 2008 - 02:23 PM

Comodo does bug the user quite a bit, but you can change the way it alerts the user. have you also considered using spywareblaster?
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html


Can that be used with Spybot?

I'm also looking into BitDefender AV. Any thoughts?

Edited by johntesh, 14 August 2008 - 02:24 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2008 - 02:56 PM

Spywareblaster can be used with spybot.

For AV I would use NOD32 or AntiVir
http://www.eset.com/
http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php
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Posted 14 August 2008 - 03:48 PM

I went ahead and installed the trial version of BitDefender. I guess I have 30 days to see if I like it. I'll give Spyware Doctor a look as well.

On a side note, how reputable is http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenre...der-review.html

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Posted 14 August 2008 - 04:26 PM

The site looks good, however http://www.av-comparatives.org/ I have been using this site and is quite useful.
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Posted 15 August 2008 - 04:55 AM

I would pass on Spybot & Ad-aware. This is the kind of detection technologies we used 2-5 years ago! They aren't as effective as today. I would replace both with SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
http://www.superantispyware.com/

As for Anti-Virus. Free AV I would choose either Avira or Avast! Home Edition. Paid I would buy NOD32 or Kaspersky. Comodo Firewall Pro 3 is a great Firewall, It uses Defense+ also to fight malware and PREVENT it in the first place. Set it in Training Mode (Defense+) for a few days and let it learn your applications, then switch it back to Safe Mode.

You also need to remember even if you use every single AV or AS under the sun, THERE ALL NOT GOING TO COVER ALL MALWARE! and NO company can guarantee it. (You can only use on AV anyway). However, SAS & MBAM do a great job, and one of the AV's above do a great job too, You don't need Spyware Doctor or anything else. Safe Surfing Habits & Browsing with Firefox or Opera is a good choice too. Don't get too paranoid.
Prevention (CFP 3 with Defense+)
Detection (Your AV)
Cure (SAS & MBAM).

All you need for security. Cheers!! :thumbsup:

Edited by 3xist, 15 August 2008 - 05:00 AM.





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