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#1 c3L

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 10:22 AM

hey guys,
well i tried to install xp yesterday from ME and the install went fine. but to my astonishment once installed i could not use any programs in normal mode, (however i could open programs in xp safe mode)??? i am confused as to why this happened and it has forced me to uninstall xp and go back to ME which i am not happy with neways (it is giving me problems which is why i tried xp!!) one thing i noted was when i tried to reinstall xp again was that i got an error msg which said flpydisk.sys is corrupted setup will now exit or sumfin like dat. this did not appear the first time i installed xp so i dont know how that happened. however when i did install xp the first time, i was notified that i had bad sectors in two files, one was system task manager, the other was a .dll file umm msystem32.dll (i think that was it?) sounds like a windows file... not sure. can any body help me out here coz i really would like to have XP instead of ME. my computer is a 1ghz Intel P3 currently running win ME :thumbsup:. if u need any other info let me know. somebody plz help asap!!

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 09:41 AM

If you can back up your files/data I would recommend a complete reinstall and not an upgrade. DO you have the ability to back up your data?

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 10:44 AM

I agree with the Grin-man. A long time ago I remember the nightmare of upgrading from Wintendo (WinME) to XP. ME uses FAT32 where XP uses NTFS. Using NTFS with XP is better because it's a more reliable and secure format for larger drives.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 03:44 AM

umm well i have a 120 gig hard drv with two 60gig partitions. i have about 50 gig worth of data (files, movies,music....) umm i hav a cd burner but some files are larger than 700mb... that is my only problem with a clean reinstall... i dont want to lose all my stuff.. i am planning to get a dvd burner but not atleast for another month. ne suggestions on how i can bak up all my data??? or ne other suggestions bout me/xp would be great... thanx....

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:12 AM

clean install is the way to go. Back up your data and wipe the drive clean, then install. :thumbsup:

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 10:39 AM

Since you have two partitions (C: and D:?), all you have to do is move anything you want to keep to the second partition as this will not be affected by the format and install of the new system.

You say you tried to upgrade. Is this a full version of XP? If it is an upgrade version of XP you will need your ME CD to prove the prior ownership of a Windows operating system during the install if you format the drive. Since your previous attempts were doing an install over the ME then this step was not neccessary.

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:15 PM

ok so if i move the stuff i want to keep from c: to d: then it will be fine? so with a clean reinstall only the c: drive will be formatted? is that right? i have my ME cd and yes the XP cd is the full version. however what happens if i do the clean reinstall but the same thing happens? how do i go back from that? or do i just clean reinstall back to ME again yeh? hope i make sense here lol
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:42 PM

When you install XP you will be given the option to format and/or create partitions. Go ahead and format c: but only that and everything you have moved to D: will be safe. Thats one of the big reasons people partition a drive so they have a storage area thats not affected when reinstalling an operating system.

Your original problem with programs not opening after installing XP over ME was because you would then have to reinstall the programs so they could be aware that they were now working with XP.

If you don't like XP then yes just reinstall ME. You will need to reinstall all your programs after the XP install as they will be wiped out in the format. If you want you can create a folder on the D: drive and download all the programs that you like to use to that and install them from there after the XP install but thats not neccessary. I like to do that with my anti-virus, firewall and spyware stuff so that I can get set up with that before I connect to the internet.

Take a look at Clean Install Procedure with Illustrative Screen Captures. Thats basically what you want to do but it talks about the upgrade version. You can ignore that part.

Oh yeah. Do yourself a favour and go to Windows Update as the first thing you do when you get reconnected to the internet. And make sure that you have an XP compatible version of whatever drivers you need for your Modem Or Network Card so that you can connect to the net.

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 10:59 PM

ok, thank you so much. i will try it out today or tomorrow and see how i go! it mite take me a while to copy my stuff to d drive tho lol. i will get bak to u after install but thanx agen 4 ur help so far. :thumbsup: :flowers:

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 07:53 AM

Hey ReX, what happened to c3L?

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:31 AM

hey sorry Leurgy, i was at skool and my friend ReX was checking his posts on BC and i must've forgotten to sign back in as me when i replied. lol sorry silly of me!!! it was me that replied not ReX! btw is there anything else i should be wary of before i install xp?

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 11:04 AM

Actually I was wondering how much Ram you have. If your going to be burning DVD's you will need 512MB at the very minimum to make that computer usable or it will be reaaaaaaaaaallllly slow.

You don't mention if you have a motherboard CD. You'll probably need some drivers off that. Check to make sure they are XP compatible. If not, you should figure out what your motherboard is and we'll find the neccessary drivers before you do the format/install.

You can download and run Everest Home Edition or Belarc Advisor to identify the components of your system. Its always a good idea to check the mobo website to see if there are any issues with XP before you install it. Sometimes, with an older system you need to flash the bios first, or get a patch for some component like the chipset or whatever.

Let me know what your mobo is and I'll take a look too.

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 12:03 PM

ok, i have 128mb of SD ram. is that enough to run XP safely or without any major glitches?? found mobo website but what should i do there? lol not sure?? ne help here would be awsome!!
as for the mother board cd, im not sure but is that the intel one for my processor? or something else?



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Posted 22 April 2005 - 12:48 PM

I just had a look and it seems Intel stopped supporting that board before XP was released. You can go ahead with the XP though, I don't think you will have any major problems.

The major problem is going to be Ram. You won't want XP on that machine with only 128MB. Go to www.crucial.com and use the memory configurator and that will tell you what kind of Ram you should buy. This is what I found for your computer.

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Error Detection Support: Non-ECC only
Graphics Support: AGP 4X
Max Unbuffered SDR SDRAM: 512MB
Module Types Supported: Unbuffered only
SDR SDRAM Frequencies: PC100 and PC133
Supported DRAM Types: SDR SDRAM only
USB Support: 1.x Compliant


I would get 1X256MB and 1X128MB 168 pin PC133 SDRAM. You only have two more slots for Ram and that will give you 512MB including what you have.

Microsoft says that the minimum requirements are 64MB of Ram but to me thats a joke.

Anyway, its your call. You can load XP with the Ram you have and see if you like it as you can always go back to ME until some Ram comes along.

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 01:08 PM

as for the mother board cd, im not sure but is that the intel one for my processor? or something else?


That would be the drivers for your motherboard. After you get XP in there, have a look in Device Manager and see if you have any yellow question marks. You can try the drivers on the CD but XP is pretty good about supplying the needed drivers itself.

The manual for your motherboard is here.

Edited by Leurgy, 22 April 2005 - 01:27 PM.

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