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#1 boopme

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 08:21 PM

I often get a request " this site may require Active X" I was of the notion it's mal or spy ware. Now I've been told it's already a part of SP2 which is on my PC running XP Pro. I 'm not sure how to handle these reqests or why I get them. I haven' t downloaded it from any of the sites and I don't see any differenece by not doing so. Why does the request happen? Do I ignore -install( from where)? Or can I stop the request?
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:21 PM

ActiveX is a Windows application used by, among other programs, Internet Express. Because it is notoriously used by malware to invade computers, most experts recommend the user maintain tight controls over which sites employ active X. As I remember, SP2 sets some IE defaults so that the user is advised whenever a site wants to use activeX.
Because of this, I would certainly recommend that, except for trusted sites where you can reduce or eliminate these request, you continue to put up with the sometimes annoying requests because it is a small price to pay for browsing safety.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:38 PM

Dig it!
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:41 PM

Dig it! Thanx
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:06 PM

this site may require Active X

A good question to ask.
Many sites do require it.

Windows Update will. The updating is assisted by having a small
application (software program) on your own PC to "interact" with the website.
You would have, at some time, perhaps back in August or September,
been told that you needed it to get updates if you visited the site.
Microsoft changed their procedures about then.

You might recall, a dialog box asking if you trust the source of the ActiveX download.
You can also check a box "to always trust this source" at a time like that.

Two more things to keep in mind, boopme

1. All Hijack This logs identify ActiveX applications on a PC.
Simply look for the entries that begin with O16.
The letters DPF mean Downloaded Program Files, and the website(s) that
are the origination of them are shown as the URL somewhere in the entry.

2. The program SpywareBlaster is designed to "monitor" these kinds of programs.
If installed on your PC, that application will allow you to block any or all of the ones in it's database.
The database is accessible to view, also, within the program.
Presently, with the newest update, the definitions number about 3,400.
Those are all individual applets.
These identified applets also show sites that use the DPFs to install malware,
either asking you first & using 'social engineering" to make it seem OK,
or simply doing it,
and detail the exact nature of the ones involved.

Probably twice that number are associated with other sites
(particularly game related) and are perfectly fine.
You can have dozens of them if you like, and your online
visits to websites will offer more, depending on which they are.

BTW, the online scans all require ActiveX to be able to scan your PC for viruses, too.

The DPFs definitely have a positive reason to exist, using the Internet.

One last note: The "counterpart" to activeX DPFs, when using an alternative browser to Internet Explorer,
and as an alternative used by some sites for all browsers is
made possible by the Java Runtime Environment,
created in much the same way as Microsoft did activeX,
by Sun Microsystems.

Sun Java "applets" (small applications) enable, in a very similar way,
extra cntent.
Because it differs from ActiveX in fundamental design,
the Java is vulnerable in different ways than that of MS ActiveX.
Arguably in far less ways, also.

So my bottomline is this:
Understanding the role of Downloaded Programs in these two ways is important,
for all persons using the Internet.
You can choose to eliminate them from your PC anytime, also.
Several programs are able to safely do it.

Edited by phawgg, 16 April 2005 - 10:23 PM.

patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 08:06 PM

Appreciate the further clarifications on this matter. Yes Phawgg, I did download it as you said with Windows Update. I've just downloaded the Spyware blaster so I'll be investigating those results soon. How or where can I learn to interpret the lines of a hijack log ? That appears to be some tasty information. Thanx again
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 10:48 PM

.... How or where can I learn to interpret the lines of a hijack log ? That appears to be some tasty information. ....

PM Grinler, telling him you'd like to join the HijackThis Team as a trainee.
They'll teach you the proper way to analyze HJT logs.
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