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Would More Ram Help?


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#1 oney

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:20 PM

So I've been having problems with my computer getting slower as time goes on, and I spoke with Katana to see if it was malware. He gave me a clean bill of health which can be found here:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/139398/itunes-malware-problem/

I'm wondering now if upgrading my RAM will speed my computer up without me having to uninstall a bunch of programs or delete a bunch of files. Katana also said to post the following information with this thread:

Dell Dimension 5100 | Microsoft Windows XP Professional Media Center Edition Service Pack 2 | 400GB HDD (Combined C:150GB [144GB Formatted] H:250GB [232GB Formatted]) | Intel Pentium 4 2.80GHz CPU 1GB RAM | RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory Graphics (+Secondary) | Hauppauge WinTV PVR TV-Tuner | Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit Audio

Microsoft Windows XP Professional (build 2600) SP 2.0
Architecture: X86; Language: English

CPU 0: IntelŪ PentiumŪ 4 CPU 2.80GHz
CPU 1: IntelŪ PentiumŪ 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Percentage of Memory in Use: 46%
Physical Memory (total/avail): 1022.07 MiB / 550.09 MiB
Pagefile Memory (total/avail): 2459.45 MiB / 1916.61 MiB
Virtual Memory (total/avail): 2047.88 MiB / 1919.76 MiB

A: is Removable (No Media)
C: is Fixed (NTFS) - 144.31 GiB total, 14.42 GiB free.
D: is CDROM (No Media)
E: is CDROM (No Media)
F: is Removable (No Media)
G: is CDROM (No Media)
H: is Fixed (NTFS) - 232.88 GiB total, 34.6 GiB free.


Just today, I installed Ubuntu to H via Wubi, and that runs AMAZINGLY, but I still need to be able to use Windows and all of the programs I have on C more often than Linux, so upgrading my RAM or whatever else is needed to speed it up is still necessary.

Thanks in advance. :-)

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:51 PM

The C partition with the OS on it is 150 gig and you only have 6 gig left? That will cause problems. In Task Manager, how many processes are running? How many in your startup folder?
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:58 PM

Hello.

C: is your operating drive, correct? If you indeed have 130gb worth of program files, then, yes you will definately need to uninstall some.

If you could just move 30gb of data files to your storage drive H:, you will improve performance. Since that drive seems to be only used for storage, you may want to compress the files on that drive to create more space.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:01 PM

I don't only have 130GB worth of program files. C: is used for data files and such. H: is used strictly for DVR (MCE) and Movies and nothing else. I try to leave a lot of space open on H: in case I'm out of town it has the space to record all of my shows, (I watch a lot of TV while I'm working since I work from home so I have a lot of shows). I guess I should take a weekend aside to really go through and clean up a lot of old files. That alone I've done in the past, though, and it didn't help completely. Anything else that will help on top of that?

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:05 PM

One of the main causes of a slow computer is too many processes running at the same time. As garmanma asked, how many Processes are shown as running in the Task Manager and do you need them?
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:48 AM

IMO your main problem is overcrowding of your hard drives (C: is too full, and H: is borderline). Windows uses the free space to perform operations that you normally won't see, so an excessively full hard drive will slow down your system. If it gets too full, you won't even be able to delete files off of it (and would have to resort to a format to regain use of the disk). There's a recommendation of 15% free space for most users - but this can increase if you've got a lot of large files that you're working with. I would suggest investing in a large external hard drive to store most of your stuff on.

Once you've removed enough stuff, then a defragmentation of the drive will be necessary. And, with a full drive, it'll take a lot longer - so the more you remove, the quicker it'll go.

Once all that it done, then the issue of more RAM can be properly addressed.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 09:35 AM

From the other thread:

I was hoping more RAM would help deal with all the cluttered services that are running, (if I go into task manager, the list is quite lengthy). Here is a screenshot of my task manager. :-O

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Whatever the fastest and *least likely to lose any data* would be the best way for me to take. Thanks again and again and again. :-P

The issue of overcrowding my hard drive can't be the only problem. I have indeed removed a lot of files in the past and the computer was still slow. I will, however, try to do that next. Any suggestions on a site to get the best priced external hard drives?

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:46 PM

As I stated, the problem with the overcrowding of the hard drive is only the start. But without it, you can add stuff until the cows come home and you'll still suffer from OS issues.

It's likely that you'll want to add more RAM, but that decision should wait until you've finished the hard drive work. Then there's work on the running startups and services, then on optimizing the system, then adding more RAM.

Take it one step at a time - rushing into a quick fix is a sure way to waste your money.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:29 PM

you should definitely uninstall some programs because you only have 14 gigs free on you c: drive which is not great. Ram will always help performance especially for multi taskers.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:42 PM

@ usasma I've recently gotten help on start-up services from someone on IRC.

@ andrewp730 If you read above, it's not programs that are taking up the majority of space. Less than 30GB are program files. I have a lot of music, movies, pictures, and website files saved. This is why I'm asking about an external HDD.

So back to that question.

Any suggestions on a site to get the best priced external hard drives?



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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:58 PM

I was referred by A LOT of people in IRC to buy this
http://www.buy.com/prod/western-digital-50.../206409667.html

I already bought it so it's too late now, but what do y'all think?

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:27 PM

I have one of those. The previous version, but it's the same architecture. I personally think it is an excellent drive, if you don't mind the spin up time when it's been inactive. It automatically turns on and off when it's needed. There is a slight delay when calling a file if it's spun down, but other than that, it's a great drive for me so far!
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:33 PM

You probably had the "Home Edition." I think the "Essential Edition" stays on and active unless you turn your computer off. The "Home Edition" automatically shuts off after 10 minutes or something.

I read that all on here: http://wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=8

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:41 PM

You probably had the "Home Edition." I think the "Essential Edition" stays on and active unless you turn your computer off. The "Home Edition" automatically shuts off after 10 minutes or something.

I read that all on here: http://wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=8


No I have the Essential Edition. In fact, I have the box right here. They may have changed the specs, like I said, mine looks a little bit different.
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