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Building First Comp, Need Some Guidance


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#1 Soul16

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 05:25 AM

So this is my first time building a comp, I've basically just been browsing newegg looking at pricing and reviews of items. This is just a build that came from that, and I was wondering what changes you guys would make, things that aren't worth the money, things that I should spend more on, if it's all compatible, etc. etc.

Case: (Looking for tall, w/ multiple fans) Looking at
$169 Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811133021
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$129 Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (Or 182, but I didn't see any difference?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811129154

PSU: $124.99 OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W ATX12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341002

CPU: $274.99 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115043

Motherboard: Not too sure on what I should get in this department, I would probably only need one that was 2-way sli capable, because I really don't see myself getting 3 9800's ever.
Very up in the air so please feel free to recommend better, but have looked at:

$199 EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813188013

$199 GIGABYTE GA-EX38-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128089

$149 ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131232


Ram:Thinking 4 gigs, easy find once I get the mobo.
$86 CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...IN2X4096-6400C5

Graphics Card: $209.99 MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127325

Fan/Heatsink: $49.99 ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink Don't know too much about fans, so any help would be good. Also would a heatsink or fan type be recommended?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835118003
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...tek%2bHDT-S1283

DVD Drive: Want to keep it SATA but doubt I'll be doing much burning $34.99 ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827135156


Hard Drive: $79.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive Nothing special
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822152052

Also, two things I was wondering about were, would I need to purchase thermal (if I need it) or would it come with the processor? Also, what are the differences between 64-bit vista and 32? I know you can make use of 4+ gb of ram with 64-bit, but what is the downside? Is it more of a resource hog? Or is it just better?

Help is much appreciated :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 02:03 PM

First computer build eh? Don't worry we will be here to hold your hand if you need it :thumbsup:

Any ways for the mother board I'd go with the Gigabyte, they have done me nothing but good.

With the operating system your gunna want to grab a 64 bit version becuase it will enable 64bit processing in your processor.

Other than that everything looks pretty good with your build unless I missed something.
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Posted 14 June 2008 - 07:12 PM

Let's see here (looking at the proposed config)...

All of the motherboard manufacturers are great, I've used Asus and EVGA. As for the RAM, if you go 64-bit get all you can. Your motherboard supports up to 8GB. Everything else looks great.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say "would I need to purchase thermal (if I need it) or would it come with the processor?" but I assume you mean thermal paste. This is often pre-applied to the heatsink. Some aftermarket coolers have it already applied, some do not. If they don't, buy some Arctic Silver and apply it yourself. Aside from being able to use all 4GB of RAM, 64-bit Vista also have some security measures applied that the 32-bit version does not, such as a hardware NX bit and a memory randomizer. Technically, items in memory on a 64-bit OS will use more space than they would in 32-bit. This is why should use 4 GB or more of RAM with 64-bit. There are some things you need to keep in mind before going to 64-bit. First of all is drivers, newer hardware should be fine, but older or specialized devices may have issues. This is because in Windows, 32-bit drivers are incompatible with 64-bit and they must be signed prior to install. You will need to download drivers meant for 64-bit. Almost all major manufacturers have 64-bit drivers to use. Another issue is 32-bit compatibility, most programs will run fine. Others will require the use of compatibility settings or administrator access to run properly. Some software may not run at all in a 64-bit environment. This is very rare (for me anyway, it happened only once in one year) and should not dissuade you from using 64-bit. You should check with the makers of your software programs and see if they will work with 64-bit.

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Posted 14 June 2008 - 07:37 PM

Yea I was talking about the paste, because I heard from someone else not to forget about it, but I had heard other places that it comes with processors so I was unsure.

I definitely plan to throw on 6 or 8 gigs eventually, so I definitely want the 64-bit version. I've heard that Vista is a resource hog so I figured why limit myself to 3 gb's? I have heard about the drivers, but I'm a little in the dark. When you say install the drivers prior to install, how would I do that if the part has to be on for the computer to run? Or do you mean hardware as in input devices and other things plugged in via usb?


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Edited by tg1911, 15 June 2008 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2008 - 09:17 PM

You don't install drivers prior to install. If you have unusual or specialized devices, you may want to check for 64-bit compatibility prior to building the PC. For Vista 64, you must have 64-bit specific drivers AND they must be digitally signed prior to install. Almost all manufacturers meet these requirements if they offer Vista drivers. Vista's sweet spot for RAM is 2GB in a 32-bit environment, a little more for 64-bit, the more you get the better.

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Posted 14 June 2008 - 09:55 PM

Alright so as long as it's new and says 'vista compatible' it should probably be fine?


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Posted 15 June 2008 - 05:37 PM

It should. If the manufacturer of the hardware makes Vista drivers, it's most likely compatible with Vista 64. Everything in your parts list is compatible.

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 08:21 PM

:thumbsup: Thank you very much.
I've never been too knowledgeable on how drivers work, I kind of just click where I'm told to when it comes to them :huh:


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Posted 15 June 2008 - 10:18 PM

Soul16,
When replying to a post, don't use the QUOTE button under the post, unless there is something specifically in the post, that you want to quote.
Either use the button at the top of the page labeled Add Reply, or one of the 2 buttons at the bottom of the page, labeled Fast Reply, and Add Reply.
It keeps from cluttering up the board with unnecessary quotes.
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 10:38 PM

Sorry, I just kind of naturally do it so they know who I'm addressing, but I guess it's a bit obvious.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 12:32 AM

No big problem.
If there were several posts, since your last post, it might be necessary for clarification, but if there's only one post then it's as you said, "...a bit obvious". :thumbsup:

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 03:37 AM

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