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#1 daic

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 10:40 AM

In Device Manager, the category SYSTEM DEVICES has a PCI Device with a YELLOW (!). When i start computer it does come up that i need to put a driver in. I would but i dont know which driver it needs.
Anyone know how i can get this error away?

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:01 AM

Go to Device manager...Right-click on the Device...Choose properties....Either update driver or uninstall...If you un-install reboot the system and let XP find it for you...If you can be more specific about the PCI device we can probably guide you to the original driver at Dell's site...
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:48 AM

If you right click on the unknown device, then select Properties, then select the Details tab
In the dropdown box, select "Hardware ID"

If this is a PCI device, you'll see a string of letters and numbers. You'll need to copy down the 4 characters after VEN_ and the 4 characters after DEV_ Then, go to http://www.pcidatabase.com and enter the 4 characters after the VEN_ in the Vendor Search box. Click on the link to go to the Vendor's page, then search for the characters after the DEV_ That'll tell you what sort of device it is. If you still can't locate a driver from that, post back with the info and we'll have a go at it.
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 12:17 PM

Okay i did as you said usasma.
Vendor ID: 0x1002 Vendor name:ATI
If its pointing at my video card, a ATI Radeon HD 2600 Series AGP 512mb GDDR3 Ram, then i can use the site it linked me to, http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html, because ATI.com doesnt support my graphics card since its an AGP card. I have to use Visiontek.com to get my driver. Driver for my card The date of the driver is 4/06/06. Mine older then this. I know these drivers are unsigned but they are the only one that works with my card. I have tried to update the driver before using a couple methods.
Can i get a step guide on how to install the new driver, see if it works.

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EDIT: I forgot to add that i did try uninstalling the device, restarting and letting XP find it for me but that didnt work. Also tried just letting XP look for it without uninstalling when it found it, still no luck.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 01:05 PM

Is a Dell Dimension 4600i compatible with windows xp PRO? or is it just made for windows XP home

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 01:39 PM

The notification that the driver is unsigned...is typical for ATI drivers. Don't let that stop you from installing them.

A word of caution: Do not let Windows Update "update" your ATI drivers. If you find a driver that works without problems, don't worry about updating/changing it.

I don't know where you got those ideas about your driver...but this should be the ones for your card. It's up to you to decide whether you want to install/use the Catalyst Control Center (I've never found a use for it) or whether you just want the driver. I just went to the ATI site, support/drivers...and linked to this.

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst...p=xp/radeonx-xp

Do you not have the CD with the original drivers for your video? Sometimes the newer ATI driver updates (one size fits all mentality) may not do the job with older cards and the original drivers work fine.

You may be required to download/install MS.Net to install the drivers...since this is not on the ATI site, maybe not. It won't do any harm, if you do, and you can remove it after your drivers are installed, if that's what you want to do.

AFAIK, all ATI drivers are in an executable package...so all you should have to do is double-click on the .exe file you download and it will do the install.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 02:45 PM

I tired the drivers but said it couldnt find a driver compatible with my current system. Thats why i use the driver from the visiontek.com site.
I am gonna try the original CD. However i dont think that will fix my original problem with the PCI device not having a driver.

Any more help on this issue would be appreciated.
Is there any DxDiag, or Hijackthis.log i can post that might help?

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 04:10 PM

What were the characters after the VEN_ and the DEV_ ? Were they: VEN_1002 and DEV_9587
This will help to verify that it's your video card and not your chipset ( but it's not likely since the Dimension 4600 appears to have an Intel chipset).

Here's an interesting link about the failure of ATI to support this: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7350
Here's a link to where ATI says they can't help you: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default...uestionID=31420
And here's the VisionTek driver link: http://visiontek.com/teksupport/drivers/8.3n_XP_driver.html

Download the full driver to your desktop and double click on it to install it. Follow the instructions and reboot as needed. When it's finished, you can delete the download on your desktop. Then check the Device Manager to see if the unknown device is gone.
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 06:33 PM

Ill just put the whole thing: PCI/VEN_1002&DEV_AA08&SUBSYS_AA081545&REV_00\4&1245FE7B&0&0108

VEN-1002
DEV-AA08

I downloaded and installed the driver from the site. The drive date is 3/24/08 and my driver date stayed 2/25/2008.

In any case the PCI Device still has the Yellow (!).

-Thanks for all the reply.
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(Is there a way to put a screen shot in the post, so i can show you where it is in the Device Manager?)

Edited by daic, 29 May 2008 - 06:39 PM.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 07:55 PM

I've found very little about the VEN_1002 - DEV_AA08 device. It appears that there's some question about it being an audio driver from a German website ( http://www.amilo-forum.de/topic,21963,15,-...lo-Xi-2550.html )

From what little I can understand of it, I'd suspect that you've got to download and install the optional drivers from the same page that you downloaded the main driver from. This page of specifications ( http://visiontek.com/products/cards/retail...RO_AGP_512.html ) seems to support this.

Found a description of it here: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii/?i=1002aa08 - and it's what the German page was referring to.

Edited by usasma, 29 May 2008 - 08:05 PM.
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 10:54 PM

Seems the from the visiontek.com side (under where the Display Driver download is). Seems you were right usasma, althought my card is the 2600xp AGP 512, it still tood.

The only wierd thing is that the driver date wont change from 2/28/08, Driver Version 8.471.0.0. The one at the site is dated to be 3/24/08. Ive tried to update the driver a few times, but the Driver Date doesnt update. (Although since its working, might be best to leave it be)

I do have another question.
There are plenty of Registry Optimizers out, i was wondering which you guys recommended to use. Or any other programs that help keep your system optimized. Also, what is the point of downloading a Disk Defragment program if windows comes with one? Are there any out there that are worth downloading that perform better then the one built into windows?

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:03 PM

EDIT: Also, with my video card. (It happens at random times, sometimes when i first start-up computer) the error is 'AIT External Event Utility EXE Module' error. and it asked to send or not send an error report.
Any ideas?

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 05:31 AM

Seems the from the visiontek.com side (under where the Display Driver download is). Seems you were right usasma, althought my card is the 2600xp AGP 512, it still tood.

The only wierd thing is that the driver date wont change from 2/28/08, Driver Version 8.471.0.0. The one at the site is dated to be 3/24/08. Ive tried to update the driver a few times, but the Driver Date doesnt update. (Although since its working, might be best to leave it be)

I do have another question.
There are plenty of Registry Optimizers out, i was wondering which you guys recommended to use. Or any other programs that help keep your system optimized. Also, what is the point of downloading a Disk Defragment program if windows comes with one? Are there any out there that are worth downloading that perform better then the one built into windows?

~Thanks for all the help.
-daic.



Generally speaking, the experts here don't recommend registry optimizers because they're overrated and have potential to damage your computer if used improperly. The main reason to use a third party defragmenter (I use Defraggler) is they work better than the Microsoft one. Microsoft has a bad habit of producing ineffective or deliberately obscure products to perform simple tasks and third party apps work better.

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 08:39 AM

The ATI file seems to be a driver...and the request by Windows to send an error report is routine, if that's what you refer to.

The fact that something is wrong with the functioning of the ATI drivers...would lead me to remove all ATI drivers and reinstall.

http://www.auditmypc.com/process/atievxx.asp

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 08:19 PM

Thanks. Is there an ATI program to completely remove the ATI drives , so i can make sure next install of the drivers is fresh?
(Also, should i remove any previous versions of ATI drives i might have?)


This probably isnt relevant but when i re formatted my computer, my 'MAIN' driver became E:, my second HD is labeled C:, and my CD drive is D:.
This probably doesnt harm the sutuation, but i wanted to know if there was a way to reshresh it and made my main drive C: again, slave HD D:, and CD drive to E: without having to reformat computer again?

Thanks.
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