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#1 splackavellie

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Posted 01 April 2005 - 11:26 AM

just wondering what the pros and cons of each one is and what you guys prefer...

sorry if this has been discussed before recently

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Posted 01 April 2005 - 04:04 PM

Well they're each suited to their own formats
Real = real media ( .rm)
Quicktime = apple media (.qt)
Windows Media Player = Windows media (.wma/.wmv)
However my player of choice is mplayer http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
I find that it plays virtually every file format and even plays corrupted
files that no other player will.
Its geared for Linux but the Windows version has not disappointed me yet.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 07:32 PM

hi,
how do you install mplayer to windows xp? :thumbsup:
its a bit complicated at the site because its suited for Linux but sounds like a good player. :flowers:

Edited by AmY_Leigh, 21 April 2005 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2005 - 01:12 AM

Dear Amy,

I am also interested in this Mplayer.

As for the others, I don't have any real positives.

I have a whole lot of negatives though.

Real player should be named, "I'm really going to take all that's in your computer and expose it"!

Quicktime should be named, "Don't read in to our name, we are really slow and could cause your computer to lock"!

Windows Media Player should be named, "I am going to do more than you want, causing you to buy what you don't want, which causes your computer to do what you don't want, but is what we want...err we guess"! :thumbsup:

If I had to choose from the three, I would choose Windows Media Player. Only because you can turn off all the wanna be dumb stuff.

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 11:17 PM

i just need something simple and can play all or most of the formats.... mplayer sounds cool but looks complicated...

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 12:44 AM

I'm like you, splackavillie

it took some doing before I had a one-size fits all deal.

I use iTunes for that.
I use windows media player for miscellaneous stuff, as needed the same way I use Internet Explorer ... if I must, or under special circumstances.

iTunes will play .mp3.
nearly everything else will too.

iTunes gives me the ability to see full screen display of all the files.
it organizes them automatically, based on what I want.

ITunes burns a quick CD.
I don't use the Store.
In fact the preferences in iTunes is why I use it, too.
16 columns of details, or two.

easy drag & drop playlisting.

shuffle or otherwise play 'em.
any alphabetical arrangement per column.
sidebar display of the folders I make.
mp3 tagging in all ways.
always free.

Then, I use dbPoweramp.
It will convert any audio files like .wmp to anything else.
individually or batch.
I use it to rip the CDs. usually to 128kbps mp3 others just as easy.
It uses freedb to automatically identify the .wav CDs I rip.
it allows lp & cassette tapes to be converted in one step to mp3.

then from it's default file I batch load em into iTunes.
where they join all the others, automatically copying a file to it's folder that I decided where it should be.

periodically I dump the dbpoweramp "converted music folder".
don't need 'em any more.

now I can play anything anywhere on any player, and
they all play well together as programs.

every annoyance of the wmp is gone, it works very well for what it does.

what I can't get it to do easily, I just don't bother trying to shoehorn
my desires into it without plugging coins or having it make me
a pretzel trying to manipulate simple organizational stuff.

thats my story and I'm stickin' to it.

I've played with 12 others.

Oh, a cute little player comes with Irfanview.
I keep it.

of course Nero has one, too.
and dbPoweramp itself ...
well they all are there, but I have iTunes the default and the others
fall into place behind it.

I'm not using it for DVD shows.

I also disable quicktime from autostarting.

wmp 10 is OK for that stuff.
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 11:50 AM

iTunes....is that only for appple?

is there anything out there that can play .rm formats besides real? i dont alot about converting them and stuff

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 01:03 PM

No, iTunes is not only for apple,
but you'll need either win2000 or winXP.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

# 500 MHz Pentium class processor or better
# QuickTime 6.5.2 (included)
# 128 MB RAM minimum/256 RAM recommended
# Latest Windows service packs recommended
# Supported CD-RW drive to burn CDs, video display card, soundcard
# DSL, cable modem, or LAN-based high-speed Internet connection recommended for buying and streaming music

and as far as learning the file conversions, which one should know,
the folks at dbPoweramp provide very good information about it.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm

the conversion of file extensions other than music, like the .rm formats ... may or may not be possible. I'm thinking that will require additional research.

I think the best way, if you want to use that file format, would be simply to have
the Real Player installed,
but with what you learn about codecs, you can also apply
to basic understanding of the video codecs. A site that helps is:

http://www.divx.com/divx/whatisdivx.php
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 01:54 PM

cool...so with that iTunes, i wont need the musicmatch jukebox which came with my comp? im assuming its clean too? reason why i dont want Real is cuz all of the stuff they come bundled with...

i think im gonna hold of on dbPoweramp for now and just read more about this stuff...i didnt know there was so much to this...i've always just listened to mp3 and thats pretty much just what i have...

so when i rip CD's to my comp i can choose diff formats? if im thinking about getting an ipod or something similar, do they support pretty much the same formats?

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 11:12 PM

Dear Splack,

Phawgg has given you some very cool stuff. If your looking for all in one player...don't.

The Copyright Gods will get you! :thumbsup:


Thanks Phawgg and Splackaville.

I have learned some new stuff.


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Posted 24 April 2005 - 01:07 AM

is there anything out there that can play .rm formats besides real?  i dont alot about converting them and stuff

Yes. Real Alternative plays Real Media. Unlike RealPlayer, Real Alternative doesn't attempt to set it self as the default player for all media types, it doesn't have ads, and it doesn't have an automatic updater run on startup which cannot be removed with MSCONFIG. (can ya tell I'm not very fond of RealPlayer?)

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Player_Alternative

Edited by WhyBeNormal, 24 April 2005 - 01:10 AM.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 01:28 AM

Yes. Real Alternative plays Real Media.

Very Good, and thank you WhyBeNormal. I too am not fond of RealPlayer. I downloaded it once just to play an old Jefferson Airplane's website stuff. I regretted it. Same reasons you do. It's history on my PC.

If your looking for all in one player...don't.

No player does it all, I heartily agree.
Thats why a user should play with 'em and learn how to "put them in their proper place"

I happen to like the easy, spreadsheet-type approach of iTunes, but for best utilization of my on-board sound, others playback in a more superior fashion, if even by only a few degrees. The ease of burning/ripping/tagging also comes into the picture when you accumulate thousands of songs.

It takes some practice, but I've always liked music, and I paid Radio Shack for longer mini-jack cables and multi-jack cables just like I did in 1968 and on as I went through LPs, cassettes, car systems, etc.

Nothing changes, except the quality of the sounds ...
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 01:32 AM

Yes. Real Alternative plays Real Media.

Very Good, and thank you WhyBeNormal.

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. :thumbsup:

Edited by WhyBeNormal, 24 April 2005 - 01:33 AM.

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 01:52 AM

And here's a Quicktime alternative:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 10:29 AM

yeah after reading around and stuff i figured i cant really have a one player does it all kinda thing. i just DL iTunes and i am liking it so far. pretty easy to use and to rip CD's. havent burned one yet so i will have to find out. im just not used to this library thing though...i had musicmatch before and it had a playlist....

is Quicktime also bad like Real? when DL iTunes it came with Quicktime. should i go ahead and remove this? also noticed that iTunes seem to always have some process running, (iPodservice.exe and iTuneshelper.exe).

as for the Real player, i ended up getting RealPlayer Enterprise.
http://forms.real.com/rnforms/products/tools/red/
i didnt know anything about Real Alternative. dont know if its any better




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