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Building First Comp. W/ Limited Budget


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#1 goofygoober

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 06:09 PM

Yea so I've been looking to build my own computer for a while, now b/c I'm tired of repairing the Dell I have.
My budget is about $500. It's pretty much a gaming PC, playing stuff like COD4, Assassin's Creed and the likes.

I've been looking through Tiger Direct for a Mobo/CPU bundle, and I've found these: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...33&CatId=14
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...58&CatId=14
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...56&CatId=14

But honestly, a lot of the other bundles seem the same to me(except the prices). Any suggestions?

And I've been looking for a PCIe Video Card and I found this : http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...&CatId=1558

Any suggestions for other parts that stay within my budget and will allow me to do what I want with the comp? and what are other sites I can lok through for parts?

many thanks ppl =)

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 08:51 PM

On a five hundred dollar budget, you should go with AMD. What does this 500$ include? Do you need a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.? Also, do you need a copy of Windows? Windows vista basic is about 100$. Ram is getting cheap though, and I'd recommend getting 2gb. For power supply, I'd recommend something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817148027 . It's not considered a high quality power supply, but I've thrown a couple in systems (including mine) and they work fine.

You might want to take a look through newegg for parts too. I prefer them a lot over tigerdirect. Their shipping is cheaper and faster, also I hate how tigerdirect has rebates for everything. I hate those things, they are annoying to fill out and never work. That's just my own personal feelings about them though.

Hopefully this is helpful :thumbsup:
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Posted 04 May 2008 - 09:20 PM

thanks for the advice.
I already have a monitor, keyboard and Windows XP Professional(I'm not yet content with Vista, yet).
And I've also been reading up on DDR3 memory, and it seems that everyone prefers over DDR2(which seems to do the same thing) any thoughts?

Edited by goofygoober, 04 May 2008 - 09:26 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2008 - 06:34 PM

Ya go with DDR2. So far it has better timings, even though it runs at a lower frequency. DDR2 is also much cheaper. A suggestion for a good budget processor is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103243

Also, I think this is a good motherboard for you http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131172

This is really good ram too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231098

I really like Newegg. Their prices are usually the best, and I always receive my items within 3-4 days of ordering.

These are just some suggestions of mine that I think would be really good for you. If you need anymore help just let me know!
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 08:23 PM

Thanks
I noticed that the Asus mobo had a Micro ATX form factor and that the power supply is ATX. Are such differences significant in anyway?

I've been looking for a DVD drive. Can they burn dvds as well, you know like a combo? I'm asking this because on newegg they have DVD drives and then DVD burners and I thought now they come in combos. Maybe I'm just mixing up the concept. I've been looking around and Phillip seems like the brand to go with, just don't know which one.

And for the HDD I've been leaning towards WD, but I'm not sure how much space I'll need. At first I though 500, but that's a bit much, especially in price.

At first I was thinking abou this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...&CatId=1558
but then realized the price wasn't within my range b/c i still have to get a case(midtower most likely, i think). any suggestions?

Edited by goofygoober, 06 May 2008 - 08:23 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2008 - 07:32 AM

I noticed that the Asus mobo had a Micro ATX form factor and that the power supply is ATX. Are such differences significant in anyway?

It won't be a problem as long as the mid tower you choose supports the small form factor. If you were to use a micro-ATX case you would need a micro-ATX power supply
Get a DVD burner.It will read and burn CD's and DVD's. Liteon and Pioneer also make good units
You can always add a second larger hard drive later
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 08:28 PM

I noticed that OEM products are cheaper. How do you go about installing something such as the DVD Burner without the manual and software, is it that simple or can I go online and look for some documentation, etc. ?

Edited by goofygoober, 07 May 2008 - 08:40 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2008 - 09:29 PM

Optical drives do not require software to install, they're plug and play. The only real thing you have to remember is the placement of the jumper
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 10:05 PM

Ok, I understand that. but I'm a little confused right now. Should I purchase a SATA HDD and DVD burner. I'm not sure if it will go with this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.as...AMD+Motherboard
and for future refernce, how do I distinguish this?

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 11:33 PM

Sorry for the double post.

This is my build so far:

1. CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

2. Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

3. RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

4. Case: Undecided

5. PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

6. DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827106073

7. HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136225

8. Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814260054

Right now, this totals up to be $349.30. That's pretty damn budget. Am I skimping too much anywhere?

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:10 AM

You can go either way with the DVD connection, you have both. If you can afford it , you should go with a better power supply.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:08 PM

yea that motherboard supports up to 4 SATA devices. I would definatly go SATA 3.0 for the HDD and SATA for the burner.

The RAM you chose is great i got those same exact ones and i like them alot.

Since you have a lil more room in your budget i would recomend this below


8800GS

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Brisbane 2.7GHz

Honestly if your planning on gaming at all then you should definatly upgrade to the 8800gs its the perfect budget card.

I currently play TF2 in 1680X1050 and get an average of 80-150FPS and my 8800GS is the slower clocked EVGA version at 550mhz core. They have since discontinued that model and now you can get the 650mhz core for less then what i paid for mine.

Also the rebate is really quick i got my $30 back within 1 month after sending it out. Fastest rebate i have ever received.

Edited by Lucky23, 09 May 2008 - 02:20 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 05:53 PM

You won't be able to play games like COD4 and Assassins Creed with an 8500Gt graphics card. An 8800GS is a very good budget graphics card. If your throwing in a good graphics card and a better processor, you should probably look into a better power supply as garmanma suggested. Something like this would probably be good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182030 . Rosewill is a very good brand.

EDIT: I noticed that you are only getting a 120gb hard drive. It is definitely worth it to get a 250gb for only 15$ more. You're more then doubling the amount of space for much less. I purchased this hard drive recently, and I love it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148261 . Trust me, 250gb might seem like too much, but games are starting to take up around 5gb-10gb. You'll regret not getting a bigger one now.

Edited by Sterling14, 09 May 2008 - 06:05 PM.

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