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#1 ^MavericK!

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:39 AM

I had to reformat my Hard Drive because my user got corrupted and my mouse althou detected it just didn't move. The issue is that my OS is detecting my primary drive (C:) as a removable disk, it's a SATA drive.
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This makes my PC freze randomly. I'm pretty sure it's a BIOS thing not set correctly. I've tried all. Last time I had this it was giving my lots of issues so I installed Linux in the HD, just to reisnstall Windows, and for some reason it got fixed, not really sure it was rtelated though. I may be doing this now, but I'll really want to know why this is happening.

Any ideas?

I have a Asus CrossHair MoBo BTW


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 03:55 AM

you have any external drive? USB stick/ flash drive or any external device connected to this computer?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 04:42 AM

At this point I do, but when the screenshot was taken I didn't. I added another SATA drive I have, and when freshly installed it looked normal, but now I have the same issue.

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In that image you can see the massive storage device I use. But sadly both SATA drives appear as portable devices.

I've tried to read in the net, but no luck till now, don't really understand it.
Hope someone has an idea.


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:27 AM

found at techarena, i would check for updates to motherboard drivers before editing registry.

"SATA drives are being identified by Windows as 'removable drives' because
technically they ARE removable drives. Part of the SATA specification is
that such drives are 'hot-swappable'and some motherboard chipset drivers
force windows to show them as such. You wouldn't be able to use that feature
of course because it is your boot drive. Some of the newer motherboards have
corrected this and SATA boot drives do not show as removeable HDD's.

I've seen it mentioned somewhere that you can turn off this notification in
the registry and I copied it from a web site [?? can't remeber which one
now] I have not tried this. Usual disclaimer applies to working in the
registry - .

Go to Start/Run type regedit

locate this folder

HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvata (nvata64 for those using 64bit
windows)

after navigating to this folder, create a DWORD named "DisableRemovable" and
set the value to 1

restart your pc and you should notice the removable icon is no longer there,
which means windows no longer detects your SATA hard drive as a removable
device but other removeable drives will still be shown."


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:31 AM

ditto on the driver update, those initial nvidia ones were buggy to say the least
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:40 AM

I don't see anything wrong with the drives. On the first screenshot was not clear if the external devices have the same drive letter as your C drive. If it was the case there would be a mixed up when you have both drives running. But the second screen shot cleared it up.

The freezing can have other sources: infection, incompatibility between some applications, corrupted system files, broken links in the registry, hardware failure, etc.

What do you if the system freezes?

You may want to check them ? It would be helping if you monitor and see if the freezing happened when you are using a particular application or it is random.

Do you have your Windows installation CD?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:52 AM

farbar and DaChew
i don't have sata drives. is this the normal way they are seen in My Computer
as removeable?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:05 AM

I have seen them before. The quote from DaChew makes it clear too. It should not cause any problem. But if you don't like the look you have to go for registry change. If you have SP2 you donn't need to use Safely Remove Hardware if you configure the device manager.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:10 AM

thanks for info

do you guys live here? i think i'm becoming an addict

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:12 AM

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farbar and DaChew
i don't have sata drives


it's all about ide emulation and how it's implemented, it's best to roll back to ms defaults with any of these drives
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:18 AM

where does the emulation software reside? in bios or windows?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:26 AM

it's in bios and the chipset

then the drivers support it

I have an older via southbridge sata controller, it will never support ide emulation or sata dvd burners

that's ok the pata/ide works better than the newer motherboards, in my opinion
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:36 AM

thanks DaChew
i am in market for new drive. will investigate how my finicky abit AN7 deals with it.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:59 AM

thanks DaChew
i am in market for new drive. will investigate how my finicky abit AN7 deals with it.


I had an asus deluxe with that chipset

NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400


only took me 3 loads and 6 months to get my dvd burners and programs working right

the nforce drivers were a joke, ms defaults worked great
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 09:08 AM

It actually freezes when idle, sometimes when the screen saver loads, sometimes after a while, sometimes after being idle and running a program, like a scan or an alarm clock. The weird thing is it was set up correctly, and then after the installation a silicone driver that comes in my MoBo CD it started. I went to Windows update and got the latest one of those. I'm really confused cause the last time I did this I got the setup as a removable, and my windows became very unstable. Once I heard a fried state "if you have issues with a HD, install Linux in it, that will take any trace of Windows and will work when you install Windows". I did, and got the disk in a regular way. and the PC stopped to freeze. After a while, 3 weeks maybe, my mouse stopped to work. It was weird because it detected it, and if I used another one it will detect it, but yet it didn't move at all. So I decided to reformat yet again. At first it gave me this yet again. I went and installed Linux yet again. and added another HD, then it gives me this again, and the PC was frozen in the morning.

I'm contacting Asus for a Bios update or something. I really don't care the fact of having a icon in my tray. What bothers me is the PC freezing. I downloaded the manual for this SATA setting, I'm actually reading it tonight to see if any change in Bios will correct this issue.

Thanks for the replies...



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