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Raise Your Voice For Tibet


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#1 Yourhighness

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 07:17 AM

I dont usually do these things, but I got this sent to by a family member: http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/

I dont like these things where you have to leave your email address, but I am sure those interested will know how to fill these forms / what to do.

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 07:44 AM

(if you're not an American, skip this post.)

How about raising your voice for America?

It's about time we concentrated on the problems here, at home.

Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. It's time the U.S. stopped being the unpaid and abused baby-sitter for the world. :thumbsup:

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Posted 09 April 2008 - 08:34 AM

One could always send an E-mail to the President and one's elected representatives asking that the official US delegation boycott the opening ceremony in protest of China's repression of Tibet and their own dissident citizens. I believe that is the current French position, and admire them for taking a stand.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 09:19 AM

(if you're not an American, skip this post.)

How about raising your voice for America?

It's about time we concentrated on the problems here, at home.

Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. It's time the U.S. stopped being the unpaid and abused baby-sitter for the world. :thumbsup:


Great point, don't forget how much money we would save.
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:03 PM

(if you're not an American, skip this post.)

How about raising your voice for America?

It's about time we concentrated on the problems here, at home.

Let the rest of the world deal with their own problems. It's time the U.S. stopped being the unpaid and abused baby-sitter for the world. :thumbsup:



Good point really except that Tibet has always belonged to the Tibetans and not China, until they invaded Tibet in 1948 althought some say 1950

Edited by ophelia, 09 April 2008 - 05:04 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 04:40 AM

One could always send an E-mail to the President and one's elected representatives asking that the official US delegation boycott the opening ceremony in protest of China's repression of Tibet and their own dissident citizens. I believe that is the current French position, and admire them for taking a stand.
Cheers,
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No. Don't do anything! That's the whole point. It is not our problem and we don't have to take a stand or voice an opinion - or anything else. It's not our problem.

This country would be a lot better off if it would just stop sticking its' nose into things that are none of its' business.

Edited by MattV, 10 April 2008 - 04:41 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2008 - 08:44 AM

No man is an island, entire unto himself. Nor a nation.

Surely the trampling of liberty and self-determination anywhere should be protested, and an E-mail to an elected representative- - -of a nation that stands for all men having the basic rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness- - - to absence themselves from the opening of the Olympics in Beijing is, at least to my mind, warranted.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 09:21 AM

Playing devils advocate, there are of course two sides to every story:


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Posted 10 April 2008 - 10:43 AM

No man is an island, entire unto himself. Nor a nation.

Surely the trampling of liberty and self-determination anywhere should be protested, and an E-mail to an elected representative- - -of a nation that stands for all men having the basic rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness- - - to absence themselves from the opening of the Olympics in Beijing is, at least to my mind, warranted.
John


Doing nothing is warranted. Let the rest of the world deal with their problems while we handle ours - which will include cleaning up the messes we've made all over the world for not simply minding our own business - starting with straightening things out domestically.

Edited by MattV, 10 April 2008 - 10:44 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:12 AM

I just don't know why our government picks and chooses which parts of the world to police, and then the places that we do choose, we just can't really help at all. Iraq, afganistan are some modern examples. But I don't think we should so easily forget vietnam, it wasn't that long ago. Please, everyone who thinks that we should help all these countries, remember that it could end up like vietnam or worse, do your history lessons people.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 12:07 PM

Since my last post I have since decided that the Olympics are not the right place to stage a political protest. The olympics are supposed to be a time when everyone puts aside their differences and the best athletes in the world compete. It is not right that the athletes, who have worked so hard to rep their country, are being sacrificed for political reasons.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 02:08 PM

Since my last post I have since decided that the Olympics are not the right place to stage a political protest. The olympics are supposed to be a time when everyone puts aside their differences and the best athletes in the world compete. It is not right that the athletes, who have worked so hard to rep their country, are being sacrificed for political reasons.

Agreed. And well put.

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 08:32 PM

In the world, nothing penetrates like politics.
I only heard about the news today from my friend T_T And I'm still not sure what's going on.
And not sure if this is allowed but this site seems to flame western press coverage.
And exactly who's the victim here? :thumbsup:
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Posted 12 April 2008 - 09:15 PM

Since my last post I have since decided that the Olympics are not the right place to stage a political protest. The olympics are supposed to be a time when everyone puts aside their differences and the best athletes in the world compete. It is not right that the athletes, who have worked so hard to rep their country, are being sacrificed for political reasons.


I am very sorry to use your post to disagree but....

I met His Holiness the Dalai Lama in 1999 in London

Sorry but Tibet belongs to the Tibetans, that is their homeland as England is my homeland, would you wish my homeland or your own to be taken away by another country? if so then please ignore the post I have made
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 01:50 PM

Since my last post I have since decided that the Olympics are not the right place to stage a political protest. The olympics are supposed to be a time when everyone puts aside their differences and the best athletes in the world compete. It is not right that the athletes, who have worked so hard to rep their country, are being sacrificed for political reasons.


I am very sorry to use your post to disagree but....

I met His Holiness the Dalai Lama in 1999 in London

Sorry but Tibet belongs to the Tibetans, that is their homeland as England is my homeland, would you wish my homeland or your own to be taken away by another country? if so then please ignore the post I have made


well, i see your point. But the olympics is not about politics, nor should it be. the athletes should be allowed to compete without global politics interfering. But seriously, how long as tibet been occupied by China? and we act like its such a big deal now? if it was, the world should have banded together and banned china from the 2004 olympics. but they didn't, and now everyone thinks that the usa should boycott the olympics??? what would it do? piss china off more? probably. they would withdraw and become more isolated than ever, and all hope of persuading the chinese through diplomacy would be over.

I repeat, I do not condone what China has done with respect to Tibet, but the olympics is not the correct front to attack the problem. Period. It would make everyone's relations with China worse, and China would say, :thumbsup: , we are keeping Tibet. If you don't like it then that's your problem."

Edited by KoanYorel, 17 April 2008 - 11:24 AM.

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