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S&H Agent/BHOs


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#1 dt7seven7

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 10:20 AM

Have tried Lavasoft,Xoft,Pest Patrol,and System Mechahic 5's parasite removal tool,only to find Aluria's Security Center 1.0's scan only mode has found the Adware deemed "elevated threat",ie., S&H Agent/BHO. How much software do I have to buy to keep clean of all intrusive items,and how important is this to do?Is there a program that gets ALL?I-Clean,that came with this Gateway M520 computer always reports 3-6 items that always remain,and I don't know if they are good or bad. SP2,did not help and caused continuous crashing of Explorer ver. 6,and slowed EVERYTHING way down. Have been round & round with Gateway,Microsoft,and local computer store,to no acceptabe resolution to any of the above.ANY help would be appreciated.D.T.

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 12:36 PM

How much software do I have to buy to keep clean of all intrusive items,and how important is this to do?

I think you have bought enough.
It is important to do it.
Some files running on your PC can be quite destructive.
Others can be quite annoying, but relatively unharmful.
New ones are developed and 'unleashed" constantly online to seek out & infect us.
Nice situation, huh? :thumbsup:

Is there a program that gets ALL?

No.

Some are better than others at specific targets.
It has to do with the way they "clean" and also the definitions.
Some define targets differently than others.
Some are quicker to spot a problem,
define it,
and add it as an update to their program.
Most all require ongoing analysis of
the malware (malicious software)
present online from literally
thousands of sites.

Some malware searchs for ANY PC that has a particular vulnerability.
Hundreds of vulnerabilities have been identified in the different windows OS.
Each version has 'em, but winXP seems to have more than others.
They are "patched" as they are identified as exploited.
That explains why there are Service Packs and updates.
The critical ones generally are fixing codes or files
that crapware authors have learned how to
manipulate, usually for financial gain,
sometimes for nothing more
than "bragging rights".

What do we do?

Fighting back consists of three main elements.
TIME * MONEY * UNDERSTANDING

In some ways, the more time you spend to get the understanding(s)
the less money you will need to spend.
Not wonderful news, I'm afraid to say.

Like I said, you can ease up on the purchasing of anti-spyware applications.
The ones you have are effective to the degrees that they presently are.
I recommend using them, and being particularly careful to check
for updates each time you use them.

Whereas only ONE firewall & ONE resident anti-virus program should be running
multiple "anti-other stuff" is encouraged, and basically you need to
discipline them (and yourself) with regards to overlapping
of automatic updating and/or "resident" protection.
Too much convenience can plug up your
PC performance by slow booting
or evidently, conflicts.

No problems starting each manually and running them separately from the start menu.

As ridiculous as it must seem to you, I'd recommend downloading
more programs, in addition to the ones you have.

Online virus scans are in a constant state of definition updating, too.
They potentially catch the new worldwide irritations the quickest.

So, from my perspective (admitably not uninformed, but no master of it)

I'd say your PC has a problem that your programs designed to cure won't.
It's not that you haven't tried.

We use Hijack This! to discern both subtle & obvious problems.
It is in common use online as a counter-measure of last resort.

Thousands of such reports are posted daily worldwide.
You should do so here.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/how-to-post-a-hijackthis-log/

You have already done basic step one & two.
Register as a member & use anti-spyware/ anti-virus programs
in an attempt to clean your PC of problems identified by
evidence and symptoms of poor performance.

Please be aware of the fact that a poorly configured OS and it's varietal software added to it can also be a reason.

We can at least help eliminate those problems the others haven't.
Help you learn about them, too.

Spybot Search & Destroy 1.3
Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta 1
Emisoft A-Squared
can be added to your "arms locker".
You'll be made aware of specific, small utilities designed for limited special functions, also.

Edited by phawgg, 19 March 2005 - 12:39 PM.

patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 12:38 PM

The problem with the terms "adware" and "spyware" is that, unlike for example viruses, there is no common definition of what precisely should be included in these categories; consequently, different applications will look for (and find) a different set of malware instances in your computer. Secondly, the relative importance of these items will vary between applications; not finding a reference to S&H Agent/BHO at Aluria's site, I cannot comment on it.
Because of the unclear definitions of spyware, there cannot be one program that will find each and every possible instance; most "best practices" will advise using several applications on a regular basis, care in allowing cookies, and using an alternative browser to IE

I hope this clears up the first part of your question; I will leave the SP2 issues to others.

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Posted 19 March 2005 - 12:48 PM

Besides the programs phawgg mentioned, I would also suggest:

SpywareBlaster - A good program that prevents spyware from being installed on your computer in the first place. This program is always running in the background, protecting your computer. It prevents the installation of bad active X controls found in web pages.

What version of Xoft are you using?
Anything before version 4.0 will contain false positives, and other problems, as per this quote:

Note on XoftSpy:  XoftSpy was listed on this page because of concerns with false positives (1, 2, 3, 4), questionable license terms, and the use of aggressive, deceptive advertising (1, 2), including exploitation of the name "spybot" by affiliates. Earlier versions of XoftSpy were also Ad-aware knockoffs. (There was clone  of XoftSpy named SpyBurn, but that application is no longer available.)

Over the past few months, XoftSpy has taken aggressive steps to reign in its affiliates (who were primarily responsible for the unsavory advertising), revised its license text, and released a new version of XoftSpy (version 4.0) that addresses our concerns with false positves. Given these changes we can no longer regard XoftSpy as "rogue/suspect" anti-spyware.

from Spyware Warrior's Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites.

As you can see, not all anti-spyware programs are what they claim to be.

Edited by tg1911, 19 March 2005 - 01:07 PM.

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