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Occational problem when trying to turn on my computer.


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#1 esthermm

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 04:07 AM

Hi,


Every once and a while Im unable to turn on my computer, the way that I solve that problem is by turning the on/off switch on my serge protector on and off several times, i hope thats understandable.

This problem occured today and I had to turn my surge protector on and off about 10 times until my comp finally started.

Can somebody explain to me why this happens

Some information about my comp:
-its a Hewlett Packard Pavillion
-its about 5 or 6 yrs old
-I have Windows 98
-I havent recently downloaded any programs
-Has 64mb
-and when i go to start my comp. it basically acts like an old car that you have to turn the ignition over and over again until it starts.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:03 AM

Hi esthermm and welcome to BC.

When you turn your surge protector on and off I hope you are not doing it rapidly as that can damage your hard drive.

I would suggest that you download and run Ccleaner to clean out the junk files on your computer and then run scandisk and defrag.

Post back with the info from Ccleaner concerning the amount of files it cleaned and we will go from there.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:50 AM

When you turn your surge protector on and off I hope you are not doing it rapidly as that can damage your hard drive.[



I would suggest that you download and run Ccleaner to clean out the junk files on your computer and then run scandisk and defrag.

When you turn your surge protector on and off I hope you are not doing it rapidly as that can damage your hard drive.


im not doing it rapidly.


I would suggest that you download and run Ccleaner to clean out the junk files on your computer and then run scandisk and defrag.


I just ran Ccleaner but i havent deleted any of the files yet.

Is it absolutely safe to delete all the files that ccleaner found?

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:58 AM

Yes you can delete all of those files found by Ccleaner. They are all unneccessary temporary files, log files, cookies and the like. It also deletes some Windows files that will be replaced when you reboot. Did it find a lot? Most people are surprised by the amount it removes.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 01:03 PM

Did it find a lot? Most people are surprised by the amount it removes.

oh yes :thumbsup: it found a ton of bleep.

I'll delete the files.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 09:32 PM

ok, I used the ccleaner and I ran scandisk and defrag. Scandisk found a few errors and fixed them. Now what?

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 10:17 PM

Sometimes an excees of those junk files will cause you problems booting.

If you continue to have problems booting it may be an issue with your computers power supply. Those older HP's were known to to be prone to PS failures.

If it happens again post back. If you get any error messages write down exactly what they say and post them here.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 10:26 PM

well let me explain something else, i came here for a second opinion. I went to another forum before I found this one and explained my problem. I was told that it was probably a bad switch and that I may need to change the battery on the motherboard.

Does that make any sense to you?

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Posted 20 March 2005 - 02:23 PM

If the battery is dead then your system clock won't keep the proper time and you will get an error message when you boot. Do you?

If there is something wrong with the switch it most likely won't start at all.

When you say it won't start, exactly what happens when you press the button? Look in the back the next time it happens. There is a round hole near the top with a fan in it. Is it spinning? Are any of the lights on?

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 11:37 AM

I doubt it's the switch. I'd lean more toward a weak or failed capacitor in the motherboard or power supply. I had a similar problem, and although I never really solved the problem, I replaced the power supply and it worked for a while, until everything started going wonky - keyboard, BIOS, memory. But testing the switch with a meter showed that it was working.

With an ATX board, the power is always on as long as it's plugged in. But the motherboard contains the power switching mechanism.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:19 PM

Esthermm: Forgive me for stating the obvious, but the next time you are able to get the critter up and running, do not fail to backup all of your data. You may be close to having to decide about spending some money to have someone service your unit (replace the power supply, motherboard, whatever) OR simply buying a new computer. Having your data on a handful of CD's will allow you make that decision much easier. Good luck...hoping you discover an easy fix.
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