I don`t know about you Rob8UrChips, but I am not going to worry about this thread any more, too much time has gone by without any kind of reply, or even at least a thanks to someone that was trying to help them out. I have noticed that there are a lot of thread starters out there, not only on this forum, but on others, that do not worry about anyone taking the time out of there own lives to try to help them out with their computer problems, or have the audacity to think they have this help is owed to them, and that no one needs to be thanked for trying to help, time has changed things, "please, and thank you" are almost a thing of the past. I personally tried to help a little, but you had way more knowledge than I being as you have dealt with the same particular problem, and actually came back to the thread to see if any progress had happened. I appreciate people like you, because I also try to be someone that helps others if I can. Stick around the forums, they need people like you that are knowledgeable, and care.