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#1 AMB4311

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 08:30 PM

I'm going to try and keep this as organized and professional as possible, I'm 15.

Strait to the point, I have a year and a couple of months old PC. I will try and state the details below as best as possible. My mom uses Autocad 2005LT but just recieved the 2008LT upgrade. I'm going to install it on this computer and from what the system requirments say I should be fine.

System Requirements
The system requirements for 32-bit AutoCAD:
Intel® Pentium® 4 processor, 2.2 GHz Recommended
Microsoft® Windows Vista™, Windows® XP Home and Professional (SP2), Windows® 2000 (SP4)
512 MB RAM
750 MB free disk space for installation
1024x768 VGA with True Color
Microsoft® Internet Explorer® 6.0 (SP1 or higher)


Also, I am learning Autodesk's Revit Architecture 2008 on a free student version. This software is quite a bit more demanding and advanced with 3D. I have already created some floorplans with it and it's fine but once I enable shadows it really slows down. I'm not sure what would be best to upgrade to help with this. Revit architecture from what I have witnessed is very leniant with the requirements. You can keep it very basic or really hype it up with 3D. I would like to do some more stuff with shadows and work on details. I will be getting a job on Autocad for my mom soon so I should bring some money in to help for this computer. Here are the Requirments for Revit
Architecture 2008. I believe the "Recommended" information is what it would take for the very avanced 3D stuff which I wouldn't be learning so soon. I've been doing fine with it on what I have now.

System Requirements:
Intel® Pentium® 4, 1.4 GHz, or equivalent AMD Athlon® processor
Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Enterprise, Business, Premium, or Ultimate; Windows® XP Professional, Home Edition, or Tablet PC Edition (SP1 or later); or Windows® 2000 (SP4)
1 GB RAM
3 GB free disk space
1280x1024 monitor and display adapter capable of 24-bit color
Internet connection for license registration
MS-Mouse compliant pointing device
Microsoft® Internet Explorer® 6.0 or later
System Recommendations:
Intel Core® 2 Duo 2.40 GHz, or equivalent AMD Athlon processor
Windows XP Professional (SP2 or later)
4 GB RAM
5 GB free disk space
Dedicated video card with hardware support for OpenGL® spec 1.3 or later
Two-button mouse with scroll wheel


How these are my current computers hardware, taken from "Everst Home Edition" If you need any more information I will try and get it.

Windows XP Pro SP2
Motherboard-Unknown. Chipset- ATI Radeon Xpress 200, AMD Hammer
AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3200+
System Memory 960 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480) Video Adapter

I don't think there is anything else that you will need. One of the things I'm not sure if it's infront of me or if I have to open up my computer is how many RAM "slots?" I have. Also if there is a certain kind of PCI I thought I read that there is PCI-Express and PCIe 2.0. My guess is it would be safe to add another gig of Ram and get a videocard. I'm thinking about spending around 200 but if I should I will save up for more. I'm really not too sure what I'm doing here. I realize that if I have to update the computer I will need an anti-static wristband and I'm pretty familiar with RAM and PCI once the computer is opened up, I'm not a complete noobie, just partial.

Thank you for any help

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 08:40 PM

Well, given a system like that its going to be slow. CAD is a very demanding application. Even the highest end pcs nowadays can have problems with CAD.

If you want more ram, you have 184pin DIMM slots. I cannot tell you whats open, how many slots you have without seeing the motherboard.
Also, because your motherboard is not listed, I canot tell you what the max size it will support is either.

Im no CAD expert, but is there anything wrong with turning off shadows, working on your model, then turning shadows back on when you need them for a final render?

Also, cannot help you on a gfx card without a picture of the board either.

Can you take a picture of the board and post it here?

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 09:51 PM

Hi AMB4311 and welcome to BleepingComputer.

If you download SIW it will show you what the motherboard is. Without knowing what your motherboard is we can't make any suggestions. This is a free download and you can delete it afterwards if you wish.

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 10:54 PM

System Recommendations:
Intel Core® 2 Duo 2.40 GHz, or equivalent AMD Athlon processor
Windows XP Professional (SP2 or later)
4 GB RAM
5 GB free disk space
Dedicated video card with hardware support for OpenGL® spec 1.3 or later


well you are about 40% cpu

20% ram and

maybe 30% video


that's a tall mountain to climb
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:00 AM

Property Value
Manufacturer MSI
Model 09AC

Chipset Vendor ATI Technologies Inc
Chipset Model RS480 Host Bridge
South Bridge IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge

CPU AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Cpu Socket Socket 939
Processor Upgrade
Max CPU Speed 3000 MHz

System Slots 2 PCI

Memory Summary
Location System board or motherboard
Maximum Capacity 2048 MBytes
Memory Slots 4
Error Correction None
Use System memory
Maximum Memory Module Size 4096 MBytes


I think that will help. Also I believe that those recommended setting aren't for what any normal person will be doing. I believe those are for the very advanced stuff, things I won't be learning anytime soon. I'm just looking to help out with some of the basic 3D stuff to help with my computer. I don't plan on getting those settings.

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 07:34 AM

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quicksp...a/12105_ca.HTML

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/sm/WF...2-71647107.html

This has turned into a guess the computer game

yes a gig of ram and a dedicated pci-e video card would help a lot
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 09:44 AM

A tool worth having, IMO: SIW System Information for Windows - http://www.gtopala.com/

Will provide much info about your system.

You can also go Start/Run...type msinfo32 and look at System Manufacturer and System Model for the motherboard data.

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 11:26 AM

A tool worth having, IMO: SIW System Information for Windows - http://www.gtopala.com/

Will provide much info about your system.

You can also go Start/Run...type msinfo32 and look at System Manufacturer and System Model for the motherboard data.

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dc3 already gave him the link and he posted the info?
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 02:48 PM

A tool worth having, IMO: SIW System Information for Windows - http://www.gtopala.com/

Will provide much info about your system.

You can also go Start/Run...type msinfo32 and look at System Manufacturer and System Model for the motherboard data.

Louis


dc3 already gave him the link and he posted the info?


I was asleep at the wheel again...apologies to all :thumbsup:.

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 04:58 PM

Is there anything specific I should look for in the Ram besides DDR?

Edited by AMB4311, 13 March 2008 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:01 PM

make and model of your computer when verified would enable us to tell you what ram would do best in your computer or even work for that matter

http://www.crucial.com/store/drammemory.aspx

this site also verifies what will work, better to have 2 sources tho
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:14 PM

HP dx5150 Mt, does that help?

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:17 PM

Wow, I'm completley wrong, because the previous information was very very very unclear.

Sorry....

Edited by TheYoda, 13 March 2008 - 06:21 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:21 PM

If it is just PCI I don't think I will worry about it. If I really want to access some of the advanced 3D stuff I will wait off until I can purchase a new computer. I don't think it would be worth it to upgrade this computer.

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:24 PM

Wow, I'm completley wrong, because the previous information was very very very unclear.

Sorry....


What was unclear to you? I'm guessing that some of the information I posted from the programs recommended was wrong or just not specific enough. I really don't know.




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