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You should do a backup.

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#1 phawgg


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Posted 13 March 2005 - 09:24 PM

Can or do you want to help me with this ?
1. Back Up ALL With Nero Software, Data, Music, Everything.

With all apologies to the member who asked this question,
(and I will answer it, by the way)
with my tongue firmly within my cheek,
let me just say that in some ways, I need to say this first.

"Terminology is one of the problems we all face, using PCs."
Within that single sentence lies a hidden culprit that might just "bite me".

I said: PC.
Personal Computer.
Some attach more meaning to it, though.
Ya' might think an Apple is a PC. It is a personal computer.
Well, no it is not.

Back in the beginning, Apples were computers built to be Personal Computers.
IBM built big computers for only for "big business".
Apple was going to change all of that.
Make 'em for the "little guy".

They did, and there was some success.
IBM also scaled down the components and came out with a small computer,
essentially a personal computer.
It was different by design, compared to the Apple.

So there were two kinds.
Due to licensing issues surrounding of the process of building these, basically,
a third appeared ... most people called them IBM Clones.

Microsoft designed an OS (Operating System) that IBM used in their PC.
Microsoft held onto the license to that OS.
Now, the combination of IBM products, and all IBM Clone products, could use it.

Apple made the hardware & software for theirs, so no room for IBM or Clones or Microsoft's OS within it's cases.

Even though both are small computers, ie: "personal computers",
PC has come to mean only the kind based upon the IBM hardware initial design
and they typically use Microsoft's OS.

So, I say PC thinking that.

The next sentence I type would/could but should not contain
such assumption of prior understanding of terminology
if I am trying to communicate accurately.

"Did you do a backup" or "Can you backup your data?"

A couple simple enough questions we all should know how to face
if we create data using a PC, huh?

It isn't simple until it is,
likely 2-3 paragraphs later.

using all the skills of language and communication,
it might remain unclear is some way how to answer that question.

No where else but in computer discussions is this frustrating reality more ever present.

Oh, there are similarities in politics, religion and some aspects of the industrial revolution.
We should all be "used to it" by now.

For instance the automobile.
Also called an auto.
It is a word used to descibe a vehicle
that generally has four wheels to provides it with mobility.

Manufacturers make 'em, dealers sell 'em to us.

The particular one we may have bought
could have been called a:
sports car,
muscle car,
station wagon,
or any number of other words.
All meaning "automobile" or "auto".

The dealers sell New or Used Cars, though.
Probably because millions of owners call them that.

Not to be confused with:
or minivan.

Car dealers sell them, also.

The problem of accurately conveying meaning from one person to another isn't a new one.
The English language is full of double-meaning words & slang or "vernacular".

It doesn't make it easy to communicate online about computers when an Apple might well be thought as an Orange.
Unknown to each person talking,
until it might become apparent that one or both seems stupid,
considering what they are saying.

Then it takes a lot longer to clear up the misconceptions now present in one or both person's mind
when considering the topic(s) that caused the confusion initially.

In fact, the initial enlightment to the reality of the matter, if found,
doesn't always mean that questions will not still remain.
Long after it little misunderstanding is over.

Considering just a couple sentences, it is easy to imagine the problem(s) escalating as any particular conversation
involving computer issues might continue to include several more sentences.

Word like baffled, bewildered, uncertain, wonder, doubt, increduality,
even anger can become part of the information exchange.


In the case of the industrial products, like cars, the manufacturers & dealers were the first to point out the differences
commonly found between the defining words that the people buying the products used.
For instance they would be quick to answer a customer's question

"Placing the gear shift lever into reverse allows the transmission to cause the car to go in the opposite direction"

In fact,
considering the reverse gear was an improvement that initially cost more money,
it is even more obvious why they patiently provided detailed definitions of
concepts that their products were capable of doing.

For the same reason a limosine and a "plain jane" economy sedan
were patiently pointed out to be quite different,
even though both were still just cars.

Polititans are known to backup meaning "shy away from sensitive issues".
They will,
also backup their assertions about heated issues with charts, diagrams, surveys
and all manner of opinions, perhaps some facts thrown in as well.

In religious discussions,
or philosophy perhaps,
one might find a need to backup for a minute...
Typically to "reassess"
or "re-examine" statements made in support of a conviction.

We are left to discuss adequately the concept of BACKING UP our "data" or maybe our "hard drive".

Backing up our CD or DVD might be illegal.

The Windows operating system always says, in the helpful manner that it does,
using "dialog boxes",
insert floppy disc to do it.

Hmmm, anyone want to try to answer a simple question?

The question might be a single sentence of six words.
The answer might easily involve six more questions and ultimately 600 words.


It is an information-based economy we exist in,
we are being told,
if we live in one of a great many nations.
6 = 600 is pretty expensive IMHO.
Not exactly energy-efficient use of time and mental energy, at least.

It would seem in some cases,
the coal-fired boiler mounted on four wheels and able to go forward and reverse
has a place along side of
the four-wheel drive ABS equipped hybrid internal combustion/regenerating electric motor vehicle,
called the car,
after all these years
of sophisticated and meaningful development for millions upon millions of people.

Have you backed up your PC?
Do you know exactly what I mean, and how to do it?

Do I?

No matter how much you know, the challenge will always remain ... can you please explain that?
patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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Posted 14 March 2005 - 09:50 PM

As Always your things are so detailed! You must spend all day doing these things.
It is always good to do a backup of your data! Especially of pictures!

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Posted 15 March 2005 - 02:17 PM

Oh so Contrare!!!

With my upmost understanding after 25 years in International Technical Support :thumbsup:

The only meaningful thing I may add is

If it took a Man a Week to Walk a Fortnight
How Many Apples in a Barrel of Pears!!!!!!!


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Posted 15 March 2005 - 04:35 PM

:flowers: and now if I can just figure out how TWO of the same post hit the forum
within a minute of each other without me discovering it until late last night ... :thumbsup:

BTW, cows I am finding it takes me longer to make a post,
the deeper I get
into the heart of the matter,
as long as windows anything is involved.
My best answer is to make each day = three days,
so I can take all day and get more done that way. :trumpet:

Edited by phawgg, 15 March 2005 - 04:43 PM.

patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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