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#1 Esther

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 09:38 AM

Hi
I am having some problems with an upgrade set i bought.
Mobo P4M800PRO-M2

Windows xp pro
Socket 775 memory DDR2 Formfactor Micro ATX

Chipset VIA P4M800Pro / VT8237R+

2 x 240-pin DDR2 533/400 to 2 GB, ram slots 2

VGA yes
Integrated S3 UniChrome Pro 2D/3D Graphics, 64MB

LAN 100Mbit
VIA VT6103L 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY

Sound 6-kanaals (5.1)
Realtek ALC655

AGP 8x

PCI 3

S-ATA 2
RAID0 en RAID1 IDE 4
Ultra DMA 133/100/66 size 24.4 x 24.4cm

Interne I/O connections 1 x 24-pin ATX Power Supply connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector
1 x FDD connector
2 x IDE connectors
2 x Serial ATA connectors
2 x USB 2.0 headers
1 x Buzzer
1 x IrDA for SIR header
1 x Front panel switch/LED header
1 x Front panel audio header
AUX-in header
1 x CD in header
CPUFAN/SYSFAN connectors

Back panel I/O 1 x PS/2 keyboard/ 1 x PS/2 muis
1 x Parallel port (LPT)
1 x Serial port (COM1)
1 x VGA port
4 x USB ports
1 x RJ45 LAN connector
1 x Audio port (Line-in, Line-out, Mic-in)


PROBLEM 1
The pc reports ram size as 480 mb but the bank is 1gb,i checked it was sitting good
in the slot,
i also changed slot and it was still reporting as 480 mb.
PROBLEM 2
I reinstalled windows and the motherboard drivers
on a freshly formated drive.
Using on board video was no problem
but when i inserted an agp video card the pc refuses to boot.
I have looked in the bios and tried various settings
to overcome this problem such as apperture size,
telling bios to use agp in place of pci,using the option for
optimal settings.
i have 3 differant agp cards and am sure all 3 are good
as i have tested them in another pc.
I tried all 3 cards in this board with no success,as far i i can see
the cards should be compatible with this system
(i have 2x ati 9200 and 1x nvidia fx 5700 video cards)
I have set the hard drive and dvd drive on there own ide,
therefor the ide slots are not shared.
Something just doesnt seem to be good,
as far as i see i have everything good,
and pc boots ok with on board video.
It is also an 8x agp slot.
I have in the last 2 days put 2 pcs together using parts from various pcs without any problems at all.
it just dosnt make any sense to me,
Please give me your advice.
many thanks

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 02:37 PM

I suspect that the onboard graphics card is taking 32 mB of RAM from your RAM (presuming that you have 512 mB of RAM installed).

As for the AGP cards, reset the BIOS to default. Try the AGP card to see if it works. If not, change only the setting to use AGP over PCI - then save it and try the card again. If it doesn't work, then I'd suspect an issue with the mobo. Return it for an exchange if you can.
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 02:57 PM

Cons: We are a reseller and wanted to use these for new system rebuilds with Pentium-D CPU's. Out of the 15 we ordered, 4 worked. We have emailed for ECS for two weeks, flashed Bios', checked memory with compatibility and we are returning the remaining boards for refund.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRevie...N82E16813135048
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 03:16 PM

To add to Chewy's post - we've seen several issues here recently that have involved ECS boards with the Via P4M800 chipset (that's what caught my eye for your post).
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 03:24 PM

ECS burned me "long ago and far away"

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 05:31 PM

I think personally that Newegg should drop ECS as a board supplier.

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 05:56 PM

in order for the video card to work you have to manually disable the onboard card first. go into device manager and disable the card then throw in your card and it should boot, far enough for you to stick the drivers for the AGP card on.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 02:47 AM

thank you all for your advice,i am at work right now and i will do what you all suggested when i get home.
i will keep u informed.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:57 AM

Hi again all,
Many thanks for your replies,
I have 1gb ram in the system so im sure there is a fault with this ram as it only registered half with the exeption of the 32meg for the graphics card.
I have done all the suggested processes in this post resetting the bios,changing pci to agp even back to pci which dosnt make sense i know but hey why not :-)
i also did as smurfdog suggested..
I have spoken with the supplier and he said that if the ram is faulty(which it is) then it can cause a problem with the agp,this i dont know if i should believe does anybody know if this is right?
In any case i am sending the ram back to be replaced,i expect that i will end up sending the board back which is very frustrating.
Thanks all

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 10:31 AM

when you buy an older cheap entry level motherboard, it's not a good idea to use any premium high voltage low cas ram

if that's the problem?

2 good brand mid level 512 sticks would have probably been safer
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 11:54 AM

I bought this as an upgrade set including ram,it wasnt really my choice what sort of ram was supplied.
The shop put the mobo/processor and ram together,
I only had to place dvd burner hard drive and graphics card in myself,so if this ram isnt compatible wih this board then the guy at the shop is responsible.
As far as we are concerned this is an up to date mobo the rest of our pcs are p3 and this is the first p4 we have had.
Im not a person who keeps to up to date with things like this,the p3 are powerful enough for most of our needs.
Maybe your right chewy but the guy at shop says he sold lots of these upgrade sets without any probs,but hey thats typical sales :-p

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 12:48 PM

what brand of ram was it? no name

just the fact that he chose that motherboard to offer in his kit would infer to me he's more concerned about profit than reliability, but if enough warranty work comes back, he'll lose money in the end, his supplier may replace the boards, but he's losing his time

I bought up several ecs and biostar motherboards for 20$ that were openbox from newegg, it was one of the stupidest things I have ever done

I still buy open box on occasion, but only last year's top of the line brands and models

what's the make, model and wattage rating of the power supply?

Edited by DaChew, 15 February 2008 - 12:51 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 02:10 AM

Power supply is 550 w
atx switch power supply
model chb 26983
And for the ram i dont know as i have already sent it back to him

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 02:35 AM

model chb 26983
15 euro's off ebay
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