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#1 DarkNight

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:04 AM

first,sorry if I post in the wrong forum,since it both concern Windows Xp and Ubuntu,still...

I'm going to install Ubuntu on my comp,I need to find a program to partition the HD..SwissKnife is so far useless to me
Also,here's a head scratcher,my HD is actually a WHOLE,not two separate HD,how to I resize it?
and,the icing,how to set up in this way,like not overwritten the MBR (since I do not have the Windows Xp disc)
like,using the Windows default booter to boot into Windows Xp and GRUb to boot in Linux

if need more info,let me know

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:17 AM

Fear not, citizen! Your questions are about to be answered!! :thumbsup:

All the versions of Ubuntu that I've used (6.10, 7.04, and 7.10 which is the latest) will automagically detect Windows and resize your partitions for you, preserving Windows. There is no need to resize them yourself prior to booting the Ubuntu CD. Here's a tip, though: defragment your Windows drive and run chkdsk before attempting to install Ubuntu; those are the two main problems associated with resizing the partitions.

There's no easy way to have Ubuntu and Windows side-by-side without overwriting the Windows MBR with GRUB's. The Windows MBR does not (and likely will never) be able to boot non-Microsoft operating systems. Luckily, GRUB can boot just about anything. I would advise letting Ubuntu overwrite the MBR with GRUB. It will automagically create the necessary settings to boot Ubuntu and Windows.

Here's a quick tutorial of how to install Ubuntu next to Windows without overwriting the MBR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723 A big pain if you ask me.

Should you decide to remove Ubuntu and go back to Windows only, here's what you do:

1. Come see me for a good talking to.
2. Seek psychiatric advice.
3. Download the XP Recovery Console from here and use it to fix the MBR.

Edited by Amazing Andrew, 11 February 2008 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:24 AM

Hey Amazing Andrew! :thumbsup:

Thanks for the quick reply
Oh good,I don't need a partition software then! :flowers:
Sure,I will defrag the Drive,chkdsk?I forgot how to do it (opps!)
I argee that it is pain to install Ubuntu without GRUB overwritting the MBR,butI'm afaird that if the install fail,I should not able to boot into Windows anymore!

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:28 AM

I edited my reply after you replied (but before I saw your reply :thumbsup: ) to mention how to fix the Windows MBR if you don't have your XP CD.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:33 AM

LOL it's ok,thanks anyway!

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 07:20 AM

sorry to bring this topic up again,but the installation didn't go as well as i hope
after i boot into the CD,i click 'Start or Install Ubuntu' then after that a dialog pop up saying Loading Linux Kernel or something like that,after that,it just hang there,I left it for 30 minutes and it still hang

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 02:36 PM

You may want to try getting the "Alternate Install CD" rather than the LiveCD. The alternate CD uses a text-based installer rather than a GUI, so it is much faster to load and fewer things can go wrong while loading it.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 09:37 PM

Dang,looks like another 5 hours downloading! :S
Thanks anyway though

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:27 AM

Ok,now I felt like an idiot,I didn't read in the Ubuntu part it need at least 256 ram to run!! :S :S :S
What a waste of CD :'(
Looks like Xubuntu,here I go!

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:47 PM

Xubuntu is excellent for the RAM-starved. I've got an old PC with 128MB running Xubuntu and it's very usable (not super fast, but you won't notice any delays or anything).

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 08:36 AM

Dang :trumpet:
I just can't win at all!
The Xubuntu keep failing,complaining that it cannot read my disc and ask me to reboot
I try rebooting,re burn the whole thing again,download a fresh copy of Xubuntu,nothing.It's like my computer is anti Linux :thumbsup:
I think the problem that it is because I use CdBurnerXP (not the Pro version) but I'm just saying :flowers:
I think I'm gonna use InfrABurner

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 02:15 PM

I highly recommend ISORecorder from Alex Feinman. I've never had a problem with it, plus it's super-lightweight and free.

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 04:00 AM

Hey there,sorry didn't post back sooner!!
ISO recorder may not be a problem to you,but when I use it,the computer hangs of 30 minutes :S
I think I burn the whole thing using my Dad laptop,I never have problems with it!

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 07:56 AM

Wow! I've never even HEARD of the ISORecorder doing that! Let me ask you a question: just how old is your computer? Are we talking a few years or is this a contemporary of the difference engine? There are distributions that are specifically aimed at the ancient computer; they're not quite as feature rich as the bigger dists, but there are some quite good ones. I've heard many positive things about Fluxbuntu, for example. (Sorry to keep giving you things to download, but that's what the interent is for right? :thumbsup: )

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 08:05 AM

I had similar problems with early versions of ISO recorder (v2 and v3) - but a lot had to do with the other programs that I had installed on my system. I'd suggest removing ISO Recorder, then removing your other CD/DVD burning programs - then reinstall ISO recorder in the version that's appropriate for your OS.
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