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#1 woodsracer

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 08:44 PM

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During start-up, Windows asks for a password for either asp.net, owner, or guest. I have never had a password before and don't know where asp.net came from. I tried downloading a program and burning a disc (on another computer) that was supposed to enable me to reset all passwords. No luck. Also, if I try to enter "Setup" with F2 when booting, a password is also required. PLEASE help! :thumbsup:

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 08:57 PM

Sorry, but we can't assist with the defeating of passwords.

From the link to the Rules at the top of the page:

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:17 AM

Reopened at another member's request. It seems that there's a solution available (that I didn't know of) that doesn't involve defeating passwords.

Live and learn! :thumbsup:
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 12:28 PM

Regarding ASP.net appearance: http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/archive/index.php/t-75040.html and http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php

I had this happen to me when I installed one of the MS.NET versions (I needed it in order to download drivers from the ATI website).

My normal logon does not require a login window on XP Home and I was annoyed by this security feature being invoked automatically.

I chose to uninstall the ms.net application because my I only use it infrequently for the purpose I stated.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:13 PM

No subject matter will be allowed whose purpose is to defeat existing copyright or security measures.


I don't know if someone has preceded me in this... Shouldn't we maybe think about revising the line or something because it is legitimate in some cases, and people might be suffering for the wrong reason! I know there is the argument that we cannot tell the legitimate case from the illegal one, but isn't there something that can be done?

Just a thought.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:30 PM

That's a standard type announcement on 99% of the computer boards which I have visited.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 01:48 PM

That's a standard type announcement on 99% of the computer boards which I have visited.


Isn't it time we distinguished ourselves from the 'average' Computer Board?!

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 02:23 PM

It's been a while, but I ran into malware that logged onto a windows box(no updates) thru a cable modem, no nat, no xp firewall(pre sp2) by using the hidden admin login and a null password. It then changed the default user to a limited account.

If you strictly interpreted our rule then no help would be available for cases like that, I doubt that was the original intention of the rule.

I kept the computer disconnected from the internet/lan and had to run windows as a repair disk to get control back and remove the infection.

On the other hand I have a hard time sympathizing with or believing people who claim to have lost their password.
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 02:58 PM

No subject matter will be allowed whose purpose is to defeat existing copyright or security measures.


I don't know if someone has preceded me in this... Shouldn't we maybe think about revising the line or something because it is legitimate in some cases, and people might be suffering for the wrong reason! I know there is the argument that we cannot tell the legitimate case from the illegal one, but isn't there something that can be done?

Just a thought.

And do you want to be held responsible for the information? That would be presented and archived, on these forums that allows someone, to use the information for unsavory or illicit purposes and damages someones machine? The information is out there to be found. We are not preventing the information from being obtained. We just will not be the vessel to maintain that information to be used for negative means. If there is in fact a infallible way to verify every ligitimate user and fool proof way of maintaining the information. I'll be the first to champion a rule change. Until that time, we will not be responsible for having discussions or maintaining information that can be found elswhere.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 03:41 PM

Hi , i just became a member and this is reason i came here to find out how to change password . i bought a used hewlard packherd comp.for 12.00 bucks but need a password to use it .can anyone tell what are my options.also when i hook up mouse and keyboard it doesnt work.its a xp professional,any help will be appreciated thanks Alex

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 03:48 PM

Hi , i just became a member and this is reason i came here to find out how to change password . i bought a used hewlard packherd comp.for 12.00 bucks but need a password to use it .can anyone tell what are my options.also when i hook up mouse and keyboard it doesnt work.its a xp professional,any help will be appreciated thanks Alex



I would think a password would be the last of my worries with a 12$ computer, it's probably broken hardware wise

Nice to play with and see if you can fix up, but if it won't post after a good cleaning, what does the sticker on the outside of the computer say? microsoft one?
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 04:15 PM

To answer your question re a "fix"...reinstall the operating system anew...that's the typical thing to do when acquiring a system with an unknown history.

Of course, that means that you need to have a valid XP license...or install something other than Windows.

I'd be worried about investing much time in a system purchased for less than the cost of a good keyboard, but that's just me.

Did you get an CDs (for the O/S and drivers) with this acquisition? Is the license info affixed to the system?

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 05:52 PM

And do you want to be held responsible for the information?

NO. Well, not personally!

We are not preventing the information from being obtained. We just will not be the vessel to maintain that information to be used for negative means.

That's a fair point.

Until that time, we will not be responsible for having discussions or maintaining information that can be found elswhere.

Does that mean that a determined individual would still manage to get the information from elsewhere? .. which begs the question why would they seek the information here when they can get it from elsewhere without hassle.

Anyway, these are just some wild thoughts (which may require some taming!).

I appreciate the responses...

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:06 PM

I spent a lot of time searching for a new home when my old one went commercial on me (had over 5,000 posts there). I finally chanced upon Bleeping Computer. Bleeping Computer is a family sort of place and it doesn't permit the usual goings-on that you'll see in other places on the web.

To keep this atmosphere, rules are required. One of those rules is that we don't help to defeat existing copyright or security measures. It's a moral stance - and one that I fully believe in.

At work, I insist upon proof of ownership before I'll remove a password (and some of my co-workers don't). Unfortunately, we can't do that here.

How did I learn to do this? Well, that's another story - and not one that's appropriate for this venue.

Why one would seek it here, rather than somewhere else is a difficult question to answer.
Is it because we're so nice here?
Is it because we're perceived as being naive because we're nice?
Is it because this was the first place that they looked?
Is it because we're knowledgeable about OS's - so we must have the knowledge to do this?
Is it because a search turned us up - but the search actually linked to the time that we've turned these requests down?
Is it just chance that they stumbled upon Bleeping Computer?

Edited by usasma, 05 February 2008 - 06:06 PM.
'nother brain cramp! :0)

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:47 PM

I spent a lot of time searching for a new home when my old one went commercial on me (had over 5,000 posts there).

Sorry to hear about that. Just wondering if it is a site that I came across couple of times through Google. I was searching for a technical question and the site required paid subscription for me to get the answer. It was kind of a shock to me since I believe in 'free knowledge' (free to interpret what 'free' means!)

I understand the point and the respectable moral stance. Perhaps that explains what makes BC successful.

I also respect your code of rule at work.

I guess you have concluded the topic. I didn't stand a chance against the massive list of rhetorical questions!

How did I learn to do this? Well, that's another story - and not one that's appropriate for this venue.

My finally words, let me finish off with a hypothetical question:
If someone (1. Close Family Member, 2. Distant relative, 3. Friend, 4. A Student who paid you!) had asked you (outside of BC venue) to teach them, would you teach them? Why? Why not? Would you trust one more over the other? Probably. What would make you think one could/would use for an illegal purpose while the other for a legitimate reason?

Anyway, perhaps not appropriate to go into such extended discussion. Otherwise we'll turn this thread into a philosophical one!




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