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#1 arwoody94

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:56 PM

I hope I am in the correct spot. I am replacing my hard drive in my desktop pc because my old one died. My set up that I have are, primary and secondary drive. My primary drive died.

I insert the new hd, made sure all connections were back in correctly. Checked my jumper settings and I am getting one of two messages; disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter help and NTDLR is missing press control alt delete.

When I get error disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter help, the bios setting is set at 1. cd-rom, 2. cd-rom and 3 hard drive. When I get error message NTDLR is missing error message I have the bios set at 1. cd-rom, 2 cd-rom 3. cd-rom. I returned the HD that I had and got another one from a different co and I am getting the same error so I know it is not the HD. During this whole time I do not have secondary set up because 1. I have items that are on there.

I also have a 3.5 disc on my pc but I do not use it. I made sure all usb items were removed (except my keyboard and mouse). In the CMOS, my cd-rom and primary drive are located.

I am not too sure what my other options are, besides throwing my desktop pc out of a tall building and then having drinks!!! :thumbsup:

Any help is appreciated.

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:00 PM

Once you installed the hard drive, did you reinstall the operating system? If so, what operating system are you using? Is the hard disk an IDE/PATA or is it a SATA drive?
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:10 PM

That is what I am have in the cd-rom is the OS disc. I take the same cd and put it in my laptop and my laptop reads it fine. The HD is an IDE.

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:19 PM

I would suspect that there's a problem with the OS disk - maybe it's a bit dirty or scratched? This'll generate the errors that you've described. FWIW - in your first scenario, the CD doesn't boot, so the OS tries to boot off the hard drive. Since no OS is installed, you get the no OS error. In the second scenario you've only got the CD to boot from - so the system tries to boot from it. But something is "borked" in the boot sector of the CD, so the system errs out with the NTLDR is missing error.
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 09:48 PM

When I change the bios settings with out a cd in the drive right now I get.

NTLDR is missing : when I have 1 cdrom, 2 cdrom 3 hd drive

disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter: when I have 1 cdrom, 2 cdrom, 3 cdrom

Is there a reason why?

Thank you for the help so far.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 11:44 PM

I am still unable to get my pc up....

i posted this comment yesterday. Anyone have any ideas? I am about to lose my mind :thumbsup:

When I change the bios settings with out a cd in the drive right now I get.

NTLDR is missing : when I have 1 cdrom, 2 cdrom 3 hd drive

disk boot failure insert system disk and press enter: when I have 1 cdrom, 2 cdrom, 3 cdrom

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:18 AM

did the cd drive work before you hDD failed?try and boot off of another cd(that is bootable) and that isnt a xp cd...

replace ide cables if you can..else swap cd drives with a known-good-working one?

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:27 AM

i would unplug one of the CD roms for now and the secondary HD and see if you can just get the CD to boot and go from there. IMO

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 12:18 AM

Okay, I have another question.

Can you erase the memory of the mainboard. Because with my previous post, just changing the bios the error message is coming up. The disk that I have work fine. I let a friend use them this past week no problems installing. I do not have the second hard drive hooked up.

Need help!!!

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 05:07 PM

So, I have bought new cables to connect my HD to the mainboard. I am still getting error messages. I have only the new HD connected (jumper is set to cable select). Still no matter what I change the bios settings to I getting one of the two messages as stated before.

Does anyone have any ideas??

Thank you

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 06:03 PM

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 07:43 PM

The HD came with an installation CD. It will run FDISK on the bare HD and format it. It may even offer to run diagnostics. It depends on the manufacturer. What were the results of this step?

Does the HD report in to the Bios? (hit the indicated key to run setup @ boot). Does the name & size appear reasonable?

The laptop reading the XP CD does not confirm it is bootable. Autoplay does not confirm bootable.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:49 PM

Hi Arwoody94

I was wondering if the keyboard you are using is a usb keyboard. Based on experience, a usb keyboard didn't work for me when I would would do a new install of XP. I would have to switch over to a PS/2 type keyboard.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:11 PM

Lot of times the Hdd shipped from the manufacturer is not partitioned and is therefore not formated. You may need to do that before the Hard drive is usable. If you have a boot disk you can try to fdisk the drive, then the windows CD should recognize the drive and you can format it using the NTFS option. When you do this I would choose the quick method as this will format the harddrive without scanning the harddrive for errors (since this is a new drive there should not be any bad sectors on the drive and you should not have to scan the drive for errors) If you dont have any boot floopy disks for your computer you can download one from www.bootdisk.com. It is possible as well you may have an older type of CD drive which can not be booted from with out drivers. Most newer CD type of drives do not require drivers to operate them and when you use a bootable CD you should be able to start the OS installation.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 10:51 PM

You checked in bios to see if the hdd is being detected right?? and seeing how you have 2 cd-roms make sure the first one in boot order is the master again i dont know if it really makes that much difference.




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