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Which Version Do I Need?


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#1 chef_franks

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 03:14 PM

I bought a cpu from a friend and it has an pirated copy of XP on it. I want to buy a real copy to put on it so it doesnt have so many problems, and I'll be able to get updates, etc.. But do I need to buy the full retail version or can I just buy the uprgrade version which is way cheaper! Or I'm not sure what the difference is but on newegg they have a "OEM" version thats even cheaper. Does it matter which one I buy?? thanks
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:23 PM

Hello,

Idealy, the best solution would be to wipe the drive and start again.
While there are advantages to all, The main thing to remember about OEM is that in some cases it can have reduced functionality.
If you can, a full version would be best(least problems) if not then an upgrade(a few problems) or OEM(it can be good or bad) but thats just my opinion.
Regards,

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:26 PM

yes i plan to reformat i just didnt know if i could use the upgrade

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:34 PM

If you plan to reformat, you'll need the full version or have a prior version Windows OS CD available to insert when asked for it during the installation process.

Regarding the OEM version:
The intent behind OEM is to allow system builders to resell the OS with markup, so they can make a profit. If you read the EULA, you'll see that you are expected to sell it with a piece of hardware. It's a violation of the EULA to purchase OEM XP with the intent to use it yourself. :thumbsup:

Violating a EULA is a violation of US Federal Copyright Laws, punishable by up to 5 years in prison, plus a $250,000 fine.

I suggest you avoid the OEM license.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:40 PM

assuming that it's xp pro that was installed and someone should have bought an oem copy when the computer was built and the parts were new

I have seen the same thing where someone used a pirated copy to fix a legal oem

oem is the cheapest version, no telephone support from microsoft, it still run 100$ for home

you can run oem pro as a repair/upgrade? disk over pirated pro or home?

oem home will repair home not pro


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116056

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116400
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:43 PM

It's a violation of the EULA to purchase OEM XP with the intent to use it yourself.


where in the eula does it say that?

buy the parts anyone can use oem

oem is full version, no useless book, plain wrapping, full functionality

Edited by DaChew, 14 January 2008 - 04:56 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:17 PM

where in the eula does it say that?



1. I know this from my conversations with Microsoft.
2. According to the MS OEM System Builders Website (http://oem.microsoft.com):

Q. What are the different ways that my customers can get legal licenses for Windows desktop operating systems?

A. There are only two ways customers can get Windows desktop operating systems on a new PC:

  • OEM/system builder software preinstalled on a PC
  • Retail product (full packaged product)


Q. What are the different ways in which Microsoft OEM System Builder Windows desktop operating system licenses can be distributed?

A. The current OEM System Builder License allows System Builders to distribute a Windows desktop operating system license(s) in the following ways:

  • Pre-installed on a new PC.
  • Unopened OEM System Builder packs (1, 3, or 30-packs) can be distributed to other System Builders by themselves. Note that they must remain unopened so the receiving system builder can accept and be bound by the break-the-seal license agreement that is affixed to the pack.


And finally, this one addresses chef_franks specific question:


Q. What can system builders offer their customers as a "legalization solution" for Windows desktop operating system?

A. Microsoft recognizes that end users sometimes acquire non-genuine Windows operating systems on their PCs and may wish to "get legal" by obtaining genuine software.

To obtain genuine Window software, end users may

  • Return to their reseller to resolve the issue;
  • Go to the Windows Genuine Advantage web site at http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/, run the validation wizard, and purchase a download of genuine Windows software;
  • Acquire a retail ("full packaged product" or "FPP") version of genuine Window software from a reseller; or
  • If eligible, acquire a Get Genuine Kit for Windows XP Professional from their reseller:

    The Get Genuine Kit is only available for use on fully assembled PCs with a previously installed counterfeit, pirated, or otherwise illegal or unlicensed copy of Windows XP Professional software. How It Works:
  • Resellers can acquire the Get Genuine Kit from authorized Microsoft OEM distributors.
  • Affix the enclosed certificate of authenticity (COA) label to the PC.
  • Microsoft recommends, but does not require, that on the PC, you either:
  • Run the Windows Product Key Update Tool
  • Perform a re-install of Windows XP, or
  • Perform a clean install of Windows XP
You must do one of the above in order to receive updates, upgrades, and support services.
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Hope that helps!
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:23 PM

I already knew all that, but that was not what you said, you were misinterpreting the eula

Microsoft once said it was illegal to make a backup copy of your disk until the supreme court of the united states said they were in violation of the law.

The bottom line here is MS will be more than happy to take your money in one way or another

Getting an honest legal opinion from Microsoft is like buying a used car and expected the truth from the salesman.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:44 PM

Go with DaChew on this. OEM version is perfectly a O.K. legal. As for not having MS telephone support no big deal. You can get free and often more accurate support on forums like BC for problems.
Many here have "been there fixed that problem or this problem".
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:48 PM

wow that was alot of info thanks! but just incase i guess i'll avoid the oem and see if i can use the upgrade without having to reformat and lose all my stuff. that should work right?

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:49 PM

ok then after toms reply i guess ill just do it. thanks guys

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:49 PM

I paid about 2 US $ for my XP pro and it works very fine with all the updates .....

the pirated version works just fine.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:54 PM

using an upgrade will not be legal or practical
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:58 PM

oem it is then! thanks for saving me some money guys

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:59 PM

DaChew got it right again :flowers:
Shame on you Wassim for that misleading post. :thumbsup:
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