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Problems With Wmp11


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#1 RockMaster

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:05 PM

A'right, here's the situation. Just so you know, my computer is not the most stable one in the world. Anyway, I was running WMP 11, and it was crashing more than usual. It normally does it every once in a while, because the visualization I use, WMP 10 Energy Bliss, is a bit buggy. But it was being ridiculous, and the library forgot to add some recent files. Again, aside from the number of times this happened, I'd seen it all before. Then after one particularily nasty crash, my entire library was corrupted, nor can I add any files to it anymore. It ceases to recognize most of my playlists, and only half the songs will even play when I click on them. Any attempt to access them through Recently Added, Artist, Albums, whatever, and it says I have no music, when my playlists clearly show that at least a hundred tracks of my 1000 or so are still recognized. And using Add to Library (F3) fails to add any new files. The files themselves are fine and still play. I have yet to see what happened to my videos or pictures, but I'm assuming it affected them as well. Now, what do I think caused it? An innocent program called FreeRAM XP Pro, which I got from C-Net. So I doubt it's a virus. But it, in a way I don't fully understand, is able to clean up extra RAM space without closing any processes. It's the only change besides adding some files that I've made to my computer. Maybe it's that. Maybe WMP decided to die, as many parts of my computer have been (It's about a year old and the motherboard already failed on me) as of late. Any idea how to wipe the library file and start anew? Will I have to reinstall WMP? I'm not sure if will help, but for the sake of completeness:

Windows XP Home Edition
Compaq V2000 Laptop
80 GB HD
1.256 GB RAM
ATI Video Card(don't remember the model#), 128 MB borrowed from main RAM
AMD Sempron 3300+, 2.0 GHz, single core

If anyone has any reccomendations, I'd be glad to hear them. Also, if someone could tell me how to make the Zune software suck less, a.k.a. install the old version, that would also solve my problem. Is it possible to install the old Zune software, even though I have the new firmware on my Zune? Is it safe for the computer?

EDIT: Just so you know, the pictures and videos in the library were actually left unaffected, which is an odd twist. Any idea why? Different files governing them perhaps?

Edited by RockMaster, 09 January 2008 - 09:30 PM.

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#2 nigglesnush85

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:01 PM

Hello,
That sounds like there are deeper problems affecting your computer, but to deal with WMP
in the settings menu is it set as the default player for all the files?
Are you running any additional codec software?
you may want to try advanced windows care to help your overall system http://www.iobit.com/advancedwindowscareper.html remember to backup.

Your system looks good enough, you have enough RAM and the processor is ok, you don't need to use a RAM cleaner unless you leave your computer on all the time and dont restart it. The basic principle of how RAM works is that each program is assigned a block of space in your RAM, when you close programs a gap is created, all a RAM cleaner does is close the gaps to the best of its ability, (to be honest restarting the PC does a better job)

About your Zune player I'm not an expert, but you may find the old version of the software here in a while http://www.oldversion.com/
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:01 AM

That sounds like there are deeper problems affecting your computer, but to deal with WMP

Oh, I've known that for a while. ;D My computer's a piece of crap.

in the settings menu is it set as the default player for all the files?
Are you running any additional codec software?

Yes and no. It is the default for video files, but not for audio files. When I installed Zune software, it took that over.
Yes, I am. The Combined Community Codec Pack. Site: CCCP Could that really be causing a problem? It's worked wonders for me for a while now.

Your system looks good enough, you have enough RAM and the processor is ok, you don't need to use a RAM cleaner unless you leave your computer on all the time and dont restart it. The basic principle of how RAM works is that each program is assigned a block of space in your RAM, when you close programs a gap is created, all a RAM cleaner does is close the gaps to the best of its ability, (to be honest restarting the PC does a better job)

Yeah, I've taken AP CS, so I know how RAM assigns memory, and I have to restart my computer frequently in order to keep it working. I was hoping that the cleaner would solve that, but so far it really hasn't had much of an effect, honestly. I'm thinking it may not even be the RAM. For instance, running IE for any length of time will cause it to have a multitude of errors, from not being able to open new tabs to the Add Bookmarks button malfunction, which soon bleeds into Microsoft Explorer, cauing it to be rendered inoperable until I close IE, or in some cases, restart the computer. And that's only one odd error I haven't experienced the likes of since my ME days *cough*.

About your Zune player I'm not an expert, but you may find the old version of the software here in a while http://www.oldversion.com/

Oh, I have the old version of the software on the CD that came with my Zune (I bought it in the summer, one of the Zune 80's), my question was whether or not it would screw over my PC or my Zune by doing so. I'd prefer to have both running by the time this is over.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:13 PM

What security software are you running, also did you try the advanced windows care.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 03:15 PM

Well, I've got the latest Norton Internet Security. It's the first one to use a Vista themed GUI, though I can't for the life of me remember the year. I think it's a 2007. And I haven't used Advanced Windows Care yet.

Edited by RockMaster, 12 January 2008 - 03:15 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 03:54 PM

Ok, Try using the advanced windows care. If that doesn't solve the problem, you need to download a codec pack. Have you tried deleting the entries from media player, make sure you don't delete the files, just delete the individual references in WMP then press F3 to search for new files.
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 01:48 PM

Well, that's problem: it tells me it has no entries, and I can't add any more. Even when, through a couple of the playlists that survived, at least a hundred files are still there.
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 02:10 PM

Could you provide a print screen of the error? (when you tell it to search for new files)
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 10:32 PM

That's just it. There are no real errors. Everything looks fine, as far as the program thinks. I can tell something's wrong, but there's no errors per se. The only weird looking thing is the playlists, really. I'll show you what I've got though.

Playlists

Before Adding Files

After Adding Files

Note several things. The playlist has files with stars, which will play. Those without stars do not, with one exception I noticed, though I don't remember which. That tells me something is seriously screwed up. Also, only three of my 8 or 9 playlists show up, my most recent, I believe. And then when I add files (In the background, it says I have none), it knows they are there, but then assumes I already have them, because it adds none. I made sure that it would add files previously deleted from the library, but to no avail. So, in short, my music library, and it alone, is corrupted and full of self-contradictions. Any idea how to just replace it with a brand new file? Just wipe it completely? Would a reinstall accomplish that?
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 12:58 PM

You are right, Are the file associations for WMP correct? also, Is it searching in the correct areas for the files?
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 06:41 PM

Yes and yes. It is still searching in the right places. The dialog before commencing the scan (the one with the list of places) is correct, and when the scan runs, the text under the bar is still showing the correct folders to check. And it plays files fine when I open them. The problem is that it will not add them to the library, so making any sort of playlist would be ineffecient. I would have to open each indivdual file I wanted to add, with no guarantee it will remember them. Also, most of my metadata is shot to hell. The files still register correctly, but WMP doesn't know it.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 07:15 PM

This is very unusual, it would look like more drastic methods are required. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsme...e/0089.mspx#491 try this, creating a new library.
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 11:37 AM

Indeed this is unusual. Normally, I can take care of my computer quite well. But this is beyond my ability to fix, beyond reinstalling the program, which my dad, an IT specialist, says won't help. He won't fix it though, because he's "too busy." Just in the hopes of trying to fix it without having to recreate my library stuff (I have an ID3 editor to make sure the files have the correct metatags), I'll reinstall, but if that fails, reinitializing the library is what I've been trying to do. Thanks a lot. ^_^
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Posted 20 January 2008 - 09:29 PM

Now, I know this is a double post, but I have a problem. It didn't work. At all. And I have no idea why.

I followed Microsoft's instructions to the letter. And nothing changed. It's still screwed up as hell. And now I'm more clueless than ever. I'm not even sure if a reinstall would help. In fact, my best option, as far as I can see, is to live with the Zune Player. Unfortunately, that means that half of my music will have the wrong tags, and the other half will be duplicated (no joke) 14-15 times. I'm really not sure what is causing the problem, if the library isn't it. The library restore did nothing, even though it has the .bat extension. I'm wondering if it's supposed to swtich back to it's old one. And other problem popped up, though it wasn't caused by this. A couple days ago, my computer stopped responding. A quick ctrl-alt-del showed that...well, it's dead now, so I don't recall the exact name, but I have to kill it every time I log on. It's something like...ah, here it is: hpqtra08.exe. It's an HP program that has something to do with my printer software. But within ten minutes of log on, it consumes 99% of my CPU. Also, WMP will do the same thing often enough, as well as IE. All three programs randomnly freeze and steal all availbable system resources. As of yet, it hasn't been too much of a problem, but I'm wonder what in hell could possibly be doing this. In my 6 years of using computers, I've only experienced one computer so enigmatic and total in its brokenness, and that was an ME, so no wonder. But to my awareness, XP is a very stable platform. There's no reason why me, someone who doesn't do crazy mods, illegal activities, or in any way mess with the general welfare of my computer beyond fairly well known channels could possibly damage the computer so completely. I don't even have freakin' admin privilidges, for Christ's sake. What could possibly be...gagh! Yeah, I'm really frustrated right now.
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Posted 22 January 2008 - 05:15 PM

When you try and play a duplicate file, does it give you an error?
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