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Newb Tryin To Build 1st Computer Help!


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#1 Iceman2424

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 12:13 AM

I have to get a new computer. After looking at name brands I think it might be cheaper to build one. I have a pretty tight budget with a $450.00 limit. I want this computer to be a decent gaming computer but also good for basic computing like Microsoft Office and such. I've picked some parts out but pretty much I have no clue and have no computing vocabulary so I dont know if it will all work. Below is a list with links of what I have picked out and I need everyone's advice on what I should do. Currently all of these items add up to $371.00 so maybe I can get better stuff to get to my limit.....Let me know....Thank you.

1. 10-Bay Black ATX Window Case w/450-Watt Red LED CASE

2. LG GCC-H23N 52x32x52 CD-RW/16x DVD IDE Drive w/Software CD/DVD Drive

3. AMD Athlon X2 BE-2350 (2.1GHz) 1MB (2x512KB) Socket AM2 CPU CPU

4. Maxtor 6V200E0 200GB SATA/300 7200RPM 8MB HDD Hard Drvie

5. MSI K9MM-V VIA Pro K8M800 Socket AM2 mATX Motherboard Motherboard

6. Forsa GeForce 6600 512MB DDR2 PCI Express VCD w/DVI TV-out Video Card

7. A-Data 2GB DDR2 RAM PC2-6400 800MHz 240-Pin DIMM Major/3rd RAM

8. 3.5'' USB 2.0 All-in-One MultiFunction Internal Card Reader Card Reader


Also please tell me if I am missing any addition hardware I will need. Thank You!

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#2 Lucky23

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 12:43 AM

First of all i would search geeks.com for parts because they normally sell old outdated parts.

I would use these websites if your going to build a comp

Newegg

PC Club

Club IT

There is alot of cheap cases out there and its just overall better to go with a name brand. Also there is alot of good name brand cases in that price range.

i would search newegg.com for a mid tower ATX case and for all your other parts they have a better and More updated selection for you.

Here is a really good case that will come out to the same price after the rebate.

Cooler Master Centurion 5

I think you might also be able to find a better motherboard on newegg for around the same price or maybe $20-$30 more. You should go with Gigabyte, ASUS, or Abit seem to be very good boards and i think will cause you less headache in the future.

This board i would say is a little out dated because the SATA ports are 1.5gb a second and the newer motherboards will support hard drives that support 3.0Gb a second which will be alot faster.

I would look at something like close the this motherboard

Gigabyte motherboard


Since your buing a DVD burner i would personally buy the SATA burner rather then the IDE. It will be faster, the new motherboards will support it, and it might be either the same price or 10 bucks more.

Your processor is only $89.99 on newegg.com

Athlon BE-2350

For the RAM i would probably buy these...There $5 more but overall they are better RAM

G-Skill DDR2 800


Honestly with everything else you listed i think you can find way better parts if you look on the websites listed above. Newegg is the ultimate websit for deals and products. The other two are good and will some times a good deal on a specific item but Newegg overall is the best.

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 12:54 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:03 AM

Also its up to you what you want to do but if you can get you budget up to $600 you will be able to build a really nice computer.

Also the graphic card is completly out dated. Unless you plan on playing older games it will probably not hold up.

You should be looking to spend at least $100 on the graphics card alone. $100 dollars or more if you can will get you a mid-range card that has come out reciently and should be able to play most games.

What games are you planning on playing?
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:05 AM

Ok Great! That will save some money. In your opinion would the hardware you listed for me make it a decent gaming computer? Or should I in your opinon get a better CPU, and if so which one? And what kind of video card do you recommend I get to set me up pretty good?

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:06 AM

Im planing on playing games like command and conquer 3 and call of duty 4 games like that

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:10 AM

Yea theres no way that you will be able to play COD4 with that g-card unfortunatly

Here is the build im currently doing and after rebates its going to cost around $600. Also around $300 of the $600 is the graphics card and processor. Those are the most expensive part for a gaming computer.

My build

Honestly when it comes to gaming the G-card is the most frequently updated part

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 01:13 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:12 AM

So really basically, correct me if im wrong, its the cheaper video card thats really holding me back?

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:18 AM

You will definatly need a better G-card. The motherboard wont support a 3GB/s hard drive. If you look at the motherboard it says
SATA 1.5 so the hard drive that you picked wont work at the correct speed.

With it saying SATA 1.5 means its an old motherboard all the new ones have multiple ports for the 3gb/s SATA hard drives and SATA burners

Also like i was saying if you look at motherboard on newegg i think you will be able to find a nice one that will be able to stay up to date longer.

Also some motherboards that aren't as expensive seem to be more of a headache to set up correctly then a little bit more expensive one.

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 01:21 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:22 AM

All right thanks alot for your help..i cant tell you how hard this is when i dont understand any of the technical lingo they are using on these sites so every bit of advice helps.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:26 AM

Well the best thing i think to do before you buy your parts is look on this forum and look at tomshardware.com. The have alot of information to read that will be able to help you understand.

A few months ago i didnt know very much but if you spend a little time reading and just asking questins from the people on this website it will get alot easier.

I just wouldnt want you to buy all your parts and then be dissapointed.

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 01:27 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:29 AM

Also like i said look through newegg because they have really good reviews on all the products they carry and that way you able to see what you should get.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:30 AM

Yea, I'll deffinatley do that. This site deffinatley has helped me out alot, everyones so smart. I only got one week to do all this so we'll see what happens.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:32 AM

You need a computer that quick?? In that case you might be better off geting one from a store like bestbuy or something that way it assures you that you getting an up to date machine.

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 01:33 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:36 AM

yea...i thought about that but everything i see is to expensive or isnt up to par...i need it for college and i go back next sunday....i suppose i could do without one for a lil while, i dont know. i wouldnt be in this situation if my laptop would work for more than 5 minutes.

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:44 AM

Honestly im in the process of building my first comp and the more i read about computers the more i seem to change things. I think the hardest part is understanding all the information and being able to pick the right parts.

I personally have everything bought up except for the motherboard, processor, RAM, and graphic card. Im saving these parts for last because this is what seems to make or break you system on wheather it will be able to play the newest games or not.

Also the more i read the more i start going back and forth on what i should get and where i should spend extra money.

If you look on you tube they have videos on how to build a computer

Also if you search yahoo for the same for how to build a computer theres a lot of websites and a lot of information

Edited by Lucky23, 04 January 2008 - 01:48 AM.

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