While I may be a person who perceives one way (and that may be in conflict with another), I'll risk some pointers.
I agree wholeheartedly that it is important to have an anti-virus running. I went to the link in the last line expecting to find a heading called "Anti-virus software". I was disappointed! I guess what I need, and expected, was a list of software that is designed to start at boot time and monitor all traffic in and out of the computer. Nowhere did I see Zone Alarm, which I have already been told is a resource hog, and which I have been using for some time thinking it is doing good things.
Anti-virus programs are designed to detect virii. (although I would call them viruses).
Here are some programs, and I intentionally include both freeware & shareware:http://www.kaspersky.com/store?AID=1110836&PID=778434http://www.symantecstore.com/dr/sat2/ec_Ma...RP=0&CACHE_ID=0http://store.ca.com/dr/sat3/ec_Main.Entry1...CACHE_ID=179788http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1http://www.pandasoftware.com/home/default.asphttp://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/enterprise.htmhttp://www.bitdefender.com/index.phphttp://www.f-secure.com/products/anti-virus/totalsuite/http://www.sophos.com/http://www.mcafee.com/us/default.asp
I don't think I've listed them all.
Let's consider those the TopTen.
I think if you can read each front page (all of it, now)
and perhaps use one link each per company's homepage,
you'd know more than I do about anti-virus products.
I could never do that, frankly.
(learn all about the anti-virus SUITES or whatever "they" call them.)
They all fight viruses.
None of them get them all.
The proof is not available, so I guess that's an opinion.
However, it's an opinion I've heard often enough.
It's probably why there exists other products NOT called anti-virus products.
They are called Anti-Spyware products.
They include, again among others (hundreds more listed that I wouldn't
provide a link to because of them being rip-offs, or worse. This link will be helpful in understanding that "opinion". http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
None of these are on the "bad anti-spyware list", at least.
again, if not THE TOP, at least Ten.http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/http://www.webroot.com/products/spysweeper/http://store.ca.com/dr/sat3/ec_MAIN.Entry1...CACHE_ID=182827http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=enhttp://www.javacoolsoftware.com/http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/http://www.veloci.dk/index.asp?visnu=ppdownl.htmhttp://www.hitmanpro.nl/
They target MALware (malicious software) that is not necessarily VIRUS.
The stuff they get might be operating in conjunction with a virus,
and quite possibly an anti-virus program will (eventually) add
the definitions of the problems these programs seek to
solve for you to their products, too.
In fact, the division line is somewhat indistinct.
Those more intimately employed in the business of combating the phenomenon
would likely be better equipped to explain it.
I might know better myself, if I could
just read all the information contained
in those twenty web sites.
I've tried & failed.
The information changes daily.
Now, several of the first ten offer online scans.
It helps their business to have big databases,
and nobody can get those databases unless they offer something free.
They need millions of infected victims to provide them data.
Data about "crapware" that changes techniques daily.http://uk.trendmicro-europe.com/enterprise...call_launch.phphttp://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/licence.phphttp://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp?cid=9435http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Another kind of online virus scan does not scan your PC, it scans file(s) you upload.
Specific files you are suspicious of:http://virusscan.jotti.org/http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirushttp://www.virustotal.com/flash/index_en.html
also a website strugglin to make sense of it, it appears:http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/antivirus.shtml
Online scans do not meet the criteria of "resident" or "real-time" protection.
You need a program installed to do that.
There might have been mention of that somewhere
in these web pages that are devoted to this sorta thing.
The only thing I can imagine worse than absolutely no protection,
a PC HELL if I may be so bold to picture,
would be a PC running everything above.
Well, this is already a long post.
Run all the anti-spyware you want, but take my word for it, please:
Don't run more than one anti-virus program as resident protection.
FIREWALL programs are not either of the above.
They offer to block traffic in & out of your computer,
based on several factors YOU control & those that are fundamental
to the nature of online connectivity and essentially are PRE-CONTROLLED.
Here again, are TEN: http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsphttp://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_dynam...PN=10&sid=26412http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf_pro.htmhttp://www.checkpoint.com/products/firewall-1/http://www.freedom.net/products/firewall/http://www.msicomputer.com/msiforms/ca.asphttp://www.mcafeesecurity.com/us/about/pre...0126_095236.htmhttp://www.pandasoftware.com/products/platinum7/http://www.kerio.com/kerio.htmlhttp://www.winproxy.com/products/firewall.asp
and what the heck, a couple websites devoted to comparing them:http://www.firewallguide.com/http://www.sociedaddigital.org/result.php?...iginal=security
You probably noticed (if you are still with me in this slightly overwhelming, yet small percentage of what's available to us) the line between ANTI-VIRUS & FIREWALL PRODUCTS has blurred.
Maybe because the businesses that sell
firewalls & also anti-virus products haven't made it clear to you (or me) what
is going on...
except that it typically involves an expenditure to determine.
Unless you try free trial period software.
Which brings me back to the point... ONE FIREWALL is enough. Two can lead to problems, unless you know more about configurations than the companies are likey to tell you.
So, perhaps recommending products to people with widely varying software
installations on several different operating system versions is not easy.Stan
, there is no easy answer.
except perhaps by the next post, maybe...
Edited by phawgg, 01 March 2005 - 03:44 AM.