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#1 r4d1c4l

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 06:50 PM

Well I have a problem,

My step dad thinks that forums about computing, or programming, or even computer games is all about HACKING. Now I have tried to explain to him several times HACKING is not a bad thing, Its the CRACKERS, LAMERZ, and SCRIPT KIDDIES who ruin the name hacking. But, he just does not listen. He wont even let me make a web page because he thinks Ill be distributing viruses, or trojans. AND THE WORST PART IS he thinks he know EVERYTHING about computers and I am just some punk Teenager who does not know anything about them. Being a graphics designer, programmer, or even a sysadmin is my dream. I don't want to end up waking up everyday and being locked in a cubical.

Do any of you guys share my problem?

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Posted 14 July 2004 - 07:50 PM

I for one never had issues with my parents about this, but hackers were nowhere as prevalent as they are today.

The problem is that the media creates a perception and definition of the word hacker and unfortunately it is here to stay. Your father is probably not a passionate computer use so does not understand what it means when you talk about hackers or programming.

What I am about to say may go against some of their ideals, but the best way to get by this is not to refer to yourself as a hacker, but rather as a programmer or computer specialist. It will make your life easier with your parents, school teachers, and aquantances.

If you would like, have him take a look at this site and how we help people here. I think if you asked him to take the time to see what you enjoy doing, and showed him that not all forums are bad, he will have a change of heart.

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 04:44 AM

I think that it is sad. Sometimes it's just the fact that being your parent(s), they are not always so eager to admit that you might know a little more than they do on any subject. Or at least my experience with parents tells me that.

If you would like, have him take a look at this site and how we help people here. I think if you asked him to take the time to see what you enjoy doing, and showed him that not all forums are bad, he will have a change of heart.

I agree, some people are still "seeing is believing" kind of people. At times, I'm sure everyone is! :thumbsup:

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 06:16 AM

Ditto what Grinler and 808Chick have said.

You might also note the quote from Will Rogers that
Papakid uses in his signature here on Bleeping Computer.

"You know everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects."


I'll leave you with another quote:

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#5 r4d1c4l

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 01:23 PM

Thanks you guys
I tried showing him and older website called hackers.com, which was the same type of forum here, but the word HACKER in his mind means criminal. So i will show him this one tonight.

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Posted 15 July 2004 - 06:23 PM

http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/hackers/hackers.html
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=30662
http://aux.stedwards.edu/newc/capstone/sp2...ckers/page2.htm

If he won't visit the site print these out and give them to him.
And take those 4's out of your name unless you want people to think you're a
l337 5crip7 kiddi3

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#7 r4d1c4l

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 07:41 AM

And take those 4's out of your name unless you want people to think you're a
l337 5crip7 kiddi3

sorry, I just use this handle for everything. :thumbsup:

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 12:53 PM

Just wondering , what does that stuff about the 4"s mean? Also what in the heck is geek code block? Im a newbie who has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. Or am I just being nosy? Lol

Edited by scarlett, 16 July 2004 - 12:56 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 01:10 PM

Yeah I have some of the same problem with my parents. Not so severe, at times they choose to support me. But they will argue with me because they think they knwo more about computers or the internet then I do. They don't even use a freakin computer and all the sudden they know all about it because of what they have heard. Its really stupid. But my parents know everything, they are always right, so I guess I should listen to them :thumbsup:

Anyways.... :flowers:

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 01:28 PM

Scarlett
Those 4's represent the letter a (A) same as a 3 being an e (E)
It's called leet speak and is mostly used by script kiddiez in IRC chat rooms.
scarlett = 5c4rl377
Google has this under preferences - change the language to Hacker and you will see.
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sorry, I just use this handle for everything

I totally understand I've used l2@VV, r@w, rw but now it's just raw.
It's all about first impressions and when I see leet speak well no offence,but bleh :thumbsup:
One more bit. Most professional hackers use their real names.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1

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Posted 16 July 2004 - 11:16 PM

I use Ataryu for everything ;) It sounds awesome if spoken correctly...lol. Its japanese, a combined definition ;p But yeah......

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 06:56 PM

Hang in there kids. You will only be teens for a few years :D and your parents will get smarter as they get older.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 12:46 PM

Raw Thanks for the explanation. I swear no one I know would even come close to knowing what eiether of those mean. Actually whenever I mention anything computer related thier eyes glaze over and rollback. Then they fall into a tech talk induced coma. :thumbsup: Lol

Edited by Scarlett, 15 February 2006 - 03:07 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2004 - 02:25 AM

I doubt that you will succeed in changing his views. Sounds like a concerned parent trying to instill in you values of right and wrong and that's good! I had a similar experience growing up and turned out to be a test of proving I know the difference through research and standing up for myself with actions for proof! You live under his rules and should respect them, but that does not mean you can't be creative to validate your point! Here is another definition for you to give to him. Good luck, keep working on it!

HACKER: One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

There will always be someone who will take something positive and trash it through stupidity, only to find out the hard way you can't get something for nothing! What goes around comes around! You can trust me on that!
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Posted 01 August 2004 - 12:08 PM

Yes but what if your dad thought pc building was bad or hacking? And what if you were good at pc building and was making money. ANd then he told you it was bad. You know it isnt bad so my point is its all ones opinion. People think different. For now just try and show him this site like said above. Once he see's that people here are trying to help each other then he might change his mind. I hope this helps you.
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