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#1 spocksbeard

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 11:38 AM

Hi,

two weeks ago I experienced massive problems with my graphics. At first, I couldn't eaven start any game.
Then - with Your kind help - amongs others, I tried out several graphic driver versions and finally stuck with the provided, original driver on cd.
For some time since then everything seemed ok. Just that the graphics did not seem to be as nice and fluent, as they should be. But I was just glad, that I had no breakdowns anymore.

Today it started to bother me again! Just like that, without any reason. :trumpet: :thumbsup: :flowers: :inlove:

As I tried to save the score (NBA 2005) I got the following message:

"The command in "0x006cf211" refers to memory in "0x00000014". The action "written" could not be performed on memory.
Click "ok" to end programme.
Click "abort" to debug programme.


It does not make ANY difference, what You click - if it's "OK" or "ABORT" - after that You're out of the game. So I started again and the graphics started to play nuts. Everything started to blink and flash...
That's it - game over! Had exactly the same problems one month ago... Other functions are ok.

Here's my config:

OS: Win XP pro (SP 2)
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version 1009)
CPU: AMD XP 3200+ (at 2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (512 MB) / driver version: 8.360.0.0

Any suggestions??
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 11:55 AM

Would you please tell us what make and model the PSU is?

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 01:51 PM

Just dismantled my pc... And didn't found any model or name on the PSU...
Bought it about 3 years ago and remember, that it was about 500 W strong. It was pretty cheap though.

Here's what I found:


------------------------------------------------------------------------Frequency--------
VAC-Input---/---Voltage 230 V-----------/---Current 4 A--- /---- 47 - 63 Hz------ /
---------------/ ----------/--------/---------/--------------------/------/---------/------/
VDC----------/ +3.3 V / +5 V / +12 V / -12 V / +5 V sb / BLK / GRN / GRY /
Max DC------/-----------/--------/---------/--------/-----------/------/--------/------/
Output-------/ 14,0 A /18,0 A / 12,0 A / 0,5 A / 1,5 A /COM / P-ON / PG /

Fuse rating: T5AH, 250 V~

Hope, that helps... :thumbsup:
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 03:15 PM

A single 12v rail at 12amps is not likely powerful enough for a PCI-E card. I tried a quick search and could not find the power requirements for that card (I don't know the manufacture). Check your owners manual and see what it requires.
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 03:37 PM

A single 12v rail at 12amps is not likely powerful enough for a PCI-E card. I tried a quick search and could not find the power requirements for that card (I don't know the manufacture). Check your owners manual and see what it requires.



I think the via 600 predated pci-e by quite a bit

his xp3200 is/was quite prone to overheating

ours fried over a year ago

sensor readings from everest showing voltages and temperatures would be helpful

asus probe would be good enough also
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Posted 24 November 2007 - 04:17 PM

Your right there, I searched the video card and not the MB.
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Posted 25 November 2007 - 04:01 AM

Hi Guys,

my graphic card is an agp one. Just turned my asus probe on and will report, as soon as get something out of it.

thanks
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OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 04:56 AM

Just ran a game once and measured the temperatures.
This time it would let me save the score though...

And here's, what I have:

MB: 37 C
CPU: 50 C

That was the stand, just after finishing the game. But it doesn't look like overheating, I'd say...
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 06:59 AM

But it doesn't look like overheating


50 is a good load temp, redline on that cpu is 85C

how are the voltages, 3.3, 5 and 12 volt rails should be steady within 5-10 percent?


by the way I would assume an agp version of a vid card using just as much power as a pci-e, I was just pulling Sneaky's leg about the vid card

his point about the 12 amp on the 12 volt rail was the important part, does probe show voltages?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

everest home free

this screen under sensor is informative

Temperatures:
Motherboard 31 C (88 F)
CPU 35 C (95 F)
GPU 43 C (109 F)
GPU Ambient 36 C (97 F)
DW CDW63G0-D00NF0A 42 C (108 F)
Seagate ST3250823AS 43 C (109 F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2657 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.42 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.11 V
+12 V 12.16 V


Edited by DaChew, 25 November 2007 - 07:07 AM.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 07:03 AM

Here You are:



+12 V --> max 12,416
+5 V --> max 4,919
+3,3 V --> max 3,312
VCore --> 1,648

Hope, that helps. Doesn't say much to me... :thumbsup:

Edited by spocksbeard, 25 November 2007 - 07:08 AM.

OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 07:24 AM

Those were the data, which asus probe provided.

Just installed everest. Now, which information do You exactly need?

Sorry, but this "voltage-matter" is not familiar to me at all...
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 07:27 AM

using everest capture that same part(at the top/report/quick report/plain text/copy and paste)

after the computer is warmed up but not heavy load

what's the room temp?

then you can compare immediately after heavy load

the gpu might be getting too hot, has everything been cleaned recently?

+12 V --> max 12,416

could be a sign of an unstable 12 volt rail???????????

Edited by DaChew, 25 November 2007 - 07:29 AM.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 10:25 AM

Well, it is pretty warm in here, because I'm a bit ill at the moment. Estimated about 25 C...

I am cleaning the system on a regular basis, using sweepy and ccleaner. Also defragmenting it with perfectdisc.

Looked at the ATI-manual. There it says the following, regarding the power supply:

"Specialized PCI Express 350 watt or greater power supply recommanded. Consult Your computer system manual to ensure the power supply is designated to accommodate a high-end graphics card with a peak
dissipation above 75 watts"


My power supply offers a greater power than 350 watts for sure but I don't know anything about this "peak dissipation"...

And here's what the everest-sensors say before gaming:

Sensor properties:
Sensortype ITE IT8712F (ISA 290h)
Motherboard name Asus A7V600 / A7V880 / A7V8X-X / K8N / SK8N

Temperatures:
Motherboard 36 C (97 F)
CPU 46 C (115 F)
Maxtor 6Y080L0 37 C (99 F)

Cooling fan:
CPU 2500 RPM

Voltage values:
CPU Core 1.65 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 4.92 V
+12 V 12.35 V
+5 V standby modus 4.97 V
Debug Info F 87 FF FF
Debug Info T 46 36 255
Debug Info V 67 00 CF B7 C1 00 00 (F7)


Here's after the game:

Sensor properties:
Sensortype ITE IT8712F (ISA 290h)
Motherboard name Asus A7V600 / A7V880 / A7V8X-X / K8N / SK8N

Temperatures:
Motherboard 38 C (100 F)
CPU 51 C (124 F)
Maxtor 6Y080L0 38 C (100 F)

Cooling fan:
CPU 2519 RPM

Voltage values:
CPU Core 1.65 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 4.87 V
+12 V 12.48 V
+5 V standby modus 4.95 V
Debug Info F 86 FF FF
Debug Info T 51 38 255
Debug Info V 67 00 CF B5 C3 00 00 (F7)
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 10:54 AM

well it's not heat unless it's the vid card overheating and everest doesn't show anything for the gpu

by clean I meant dirt/dust/lint

especially the vid card cooling fan?
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Posted 25 November 2007 - 11:16 AM

Yes, from time to time, I clean the dust as well.

But haven't cleaned the card-fan so far. Since the card is about two months old, that shouldn't be the problem yet...
OS: Win XP Pro + SP2
MB: ASUS A7V600-X (bios version: 1009); chipset: Northbridge VIA KT600 + Southbridge VIA VT8237
CPU: AMD XP3200+ (2,2 GHz)
RAM: 1,5 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon 1600pro (AGP, 512 MB) driver: 6.14.0010.6683
DirectX-version: 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Sound: SoundMax Digital Audio; driver: 5.12.0001.3663




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