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Can I Use Two Video Cards Agp/pci


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#1 stoopidzen

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 12:50 PM

I have an ATI All-in-wonder9000 low profile in my only AGP slot. It has worked great over the past few years and would like to keep it for its TV-Tuner. Needless to say, I need to update my 3D graphics. Is it possible for me to get a good PCI Video Card, keep my AIW9000, and run both or one at a time as needed?
Here are my system specs.
System
Property Value
Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
Product Name Dimension 8300
Serial Number GS28N41
Chassis Mini tower
Infrared (IR) Supported No
Machine Type AT/AT COMPATIBLE

Motherboard
Property Value
Manufacturer Dell Computer Corp.
Model 0W2562
Serial Number ..CN4811142R01UP.

Chipset Vendor Intel Corporation
Chipset Model 82875P,E7210 Memory Controller Hub
North Bridge Intel 875P
South Bridge 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge
SMBus Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller @EDA0h

CPU Intel Pentium 4 HT
Cpu Socket Socket 478
Processor Upgrade ZIF Socket
Max CPU Speed 3600 MHz

System Slots 4 PCI, 1 AGP

OnBoard devices
Ethernet (Enabled) Intel Pro 100 VE Network Connection
Sound (Enabled) AC'97 Audio Controller

Memory Summary
Location System board or motherboard
Maximum Capacity 4096 MBytes
Memory Slots 4
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Use System memory

Slot info
Tag Name
System Slot 0 PCI1
Property Value
Slot Tag System Slot 0
Slot Name PCI1
Slot Type PCI
Data Bus Width 32 bits
Current Usage Available
Shared No
PME Signal Yes
Support Hot Plug No
Vcc voltage supported 5V, 3.3V

System Slot 1 PCI2
Property Value
Slot Tag System Slot 1
Slot Name PCI2
Slot Type PCI
Data Bus Width 32 bits
Current Usage Available
Shared No
PME Signal Yes
Support Hot Plug No
Vcc voltage supported 5V, 3.3V

System Slot 2 PCI3
Property Value
Slot Tag System Slot 2
Slot Name PCI3
Slot Type PCI
Data Bus Width 32 bits
Current Usage Available
Shared No
PME Signal Yes
Support Hot Plug No
Vcc voltage supported 5V, 3.3V

System Slot 3 PCI4
Property Value
Slot Tag System Slot 3
Slot Name PCI4
Slot Type PCI
Data Bus Width 32 bits
Current Usage Available
Shared No
PME Signal Yes
Support Hot Plug No
Vcc voltage supported 5V, 3.3V

System Slot 4 AGP1
Property Value
Slot Tag System Slot 4
Slot Name AGP1
Slot Type AGP 8X
Data Bus Width 32 bits
Current Usage In use
Shared No
PME Signal Yes
Support Hot Plug No
Vcc voltage supported 3.3V

Video Card
Property Value
Vendor 1002h ATI Technologies Inc
Device 4C66h Mobility Radeon 9000
Subsystem Vendor 1002h ATI Technologies Inc
Subsystem Device 4F72h
Command 0187h I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster, Wait Cycles, System Errors
Status 02B0h Has Capabilities List, Supports 66MHz, Supports Back-To-Back Trans., Medium Timing
Revision 02h
Header Type 00h
Bus Latency Timer FFh
Minimum Bus Grant 08h
Maximum Bus Latency 00h
Self test 00h Self test not supported
Cache line size 64 Bytes (16 DWords)
PCI Class 03h Display
PCI Class Type 30000h VGA Controller

DeviceDesc All-in-Wonder 9000 Low Profile
LocationInformation PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0
Capabilities 0
HardwareID PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66SUBSYS_4F721002REV_02
PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66SUBSYS_4F721002
PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66CC_0300
CompatibleIDs PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66REV_02
PCI\VEN_1002DEV_4C66
PCI\VEN_1002CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002CC_0300
PCI\VEN_1002
PCI\CC_030000
PCI\CC_0300
ClassGUID {4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Class Display
Driver {4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001
Mfg ATI Technologies Inc.
Service ati2mtag
ConfigFlags 0
ParentIdPrefix 5155942790

Device Configuration File oem0.inf
InfPath oem0.inf
InfSection ati2mtag_M9
ProviderName ATI Technologies Inc.
DriverDateData 00 40 9D D0 09 74 C3 01
DriverDate 9-6-2003
DriverVersion 6.14.10.6394
MatchingDeviceId pci\ven_1002dev_4c66subsys_4f721002
DriverDesc All-in-Wonder 9000 Low Profile

Class Display
Display adapters
Installer32 Desk.Cpl,DisplayClassInstaller
TroubleShooter-0 hcp://help/tshoot/tsdisp.htm
Icon -1

Processors
Property Value
Device ID ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_15_MODEL_2\_0
Status 0x0180000a Started
Problem 0x00000000 (0)
Service intelppm
Capabilities 0x00000030
Config Flags 0x00000000
Class Processor
Manufacturer Intel
Hardware IDs ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_x86_Family_15_Model_2
*GenuineIntel_-_x86_Family_15_Model_2
ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_x86_Family_15
*GenuineIntel_-_x86_Family_15
ACPI\GenuineIntel_-_x86
*GenuineIntel_-_x86
Compatible IDs ACPI\Processor
Class GUID {50127DC3-0F36-415E-A6CC-4CB3BE910B65}
Enumerator name ACPI
Description Intel Processor
Friendly name Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Driver {50127DC3-0F36-415E-A6CC-4CB3BE910B65}\0001
Physical Object Name \Device\00000050
Install State 0x00000000
Device Configuration File c:\windows\inf\cpu.inf
Used File C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
InfPath cpu.inf
InfSection IntelPPM_Inst
InfSectionExt .NT
ProviderName Microsoft
DriverDateData 00 40 89 46 7C 17 C4 01
DriverDate 4-1-2004
DriverVersion 5.1.2600.0
MatchingDeviceId acpi\genuineintel_-_x86_family_15_model_2
DriverDesc Intel Processor

Class Processor
Processors
NoInstallClass 1
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 02:34 PM

It's possible for a dual monitor setup. I couldn't say for a single monitor
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 02:39 PM

you do know there are better AIW that the one you have and they have more memory.

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 06:42 PM

As Mentioned it is possible to "stack" PCI and AGP video cards your best bet would be to upgrade your AGP card since your AGP port has a much higher bandwidth then the PCI port. You will be bottle necked with your PCI card and may not be able to play the latest games. In order to use both cards the way you want you would need to either physically switch the VGA connector, use a Video switch hooked up to both cards and the one monitor or use 2 monitors.
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Posted 23 November 2007 - 09:47 PM

Personally I would save my money and work toward a new build that will have PCI-E which would allow you to use the newer and faster boards not to mention a faster CPU and RAM.

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 04:23 PM

As Mentioned it is possible to "stack" PCI and AGP video cards your best bet would be to upgrade your AGP card since your AGP port has a much higher bandwidth then the PCI port. You will be bottle necked with your PCI card and may not be able to play the latest games. In order to use both cards the way you want you would need to either physically switch the VGA connector, use a Video switch hooked up to both cards and the one monitor or use 2 monitors.



If I have a second monitor would I still have to worry about the bottleneck?
Would the PCI be ok if it was used only for the second monitor (game monitor) or still not enough bandwidth?
Thinking of using my HDTV (PC compatible) for the second monitor.
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Posted 25 November 2007 - 05:57 PM

Your ATI card is a PCI? If this is the case use your AGP x8 port for a good quality card such as an Geforce 7800 or 7600 and use it for gaming and use the other card for the TV function. I have not stacked video cards personally so I don't know how this will work with games.
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