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Win Wp Defragging Question


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#1 cilypudi

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:22 PM

I was doing a defrag and noticed that my D drive was
nearly full with only 5% free space, and I was prompted
that it needed to be defragmented. So I attempted the defrag,
but of course Win XP informs it needs 15% free space to do
an effective defragmentation. But I can't access it because
it contains my FAT32 and is protected by PC Angel, and I assume
"system restore" is kept there. I don't use it for anything.
Regular factory OEM partition setup.

But the question is, is this normal for the drive to be
so nearly full, and is there a chance of it becoming full?
The log file shows the drive being used by Google Desktop
quite abit, so I made sure it was off when I attempted a second defrag.

But still Win XP still reports the drive badly fragmented
and nearly full. I run Win XP SP2 with 14 gb free on my
hard drive. Here is some data from the log file. Would just
appreciate any input. Thanks, CilyPudi.

Volume (D:)
Volume size = 3.30 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 3.12 GB
Free space = 184 MB
Percent free space = 5 %

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Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
7 120 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\DBEAM
4 80 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\DBDAM
22 260 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\RPM.CF1
35 260 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\RPM1M.CF1
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:21 AM

Use JkDefrag on it : http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/
Unzip and just run the JkDefrag.exe. No install required.
Ugly as sin, as effective as it is ugly. Works on very full disks.
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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:42 AM

If this is the recovery partition on your computer there is no need to defrag it.
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 02:30 PM

Hey peoples (-:
thanx for responding.

but, oh boy, now I'm really worried, haha

My D: drive is still being eaten away, albeit it slowly.
Now it is down to 103 mb???

And I looked at the Microsoft sheet on System Restore and it only instructs
how to perform it, but not toubleshoot or debug it.

I did note that when I Rt. click the D: drive icon, I am given the options
to run "disk cleanup", and there is a "troubleshoot" button.

I've used disk cleanup on my C: drive quite often, but not on D:
And I understand I should not tinker with the OEM backup restore data.

But what to do?? haha
How can I discern what is dumping data into it?

Oh yea, I forgot, the Defrag Report showed:

Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
8 120 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\DBEAM
4 80 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\DBDAM
22 260 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\RPM.CF1
35 260 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\RPM1M.CF1
2 20 MB \Google Desktop Data\3c9bb886245a\SAFEWEB\goog-black-enchashm.cf1

Well, let me check another repot now to compare to it, that's a thought....
haha, I stopped midway when I saw I would have to run defrag to get the data...don't wanna do that!

So is there a program that would tell me if Google Desktop is using the partition?
Or is that obvious from the above report information?

And if I uninstalled Google Desktop ( and I would hate to lose it)
would that remove the superflous files hogging up D: ?
How would I remove them?

And if I uninstalled/reinstalled it, i wonder if that would help?
I've got a program called "Your Uninstaller" that is superb about cleaning up after programs.

But I still think the Google programmers would not allow this situation,
and I think something is not quite right.
And I would still like to see what my system is doing.
not having control drives me nutz!

I know I could spend all day asking Google these questions and probably
figure all this out myself, I'm pretty good at that,
but that's why I'm here!! haha

So please offer me any more of your wisdom
in the name of Conservation of Energy (-:

thanx
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 02:40 PM

Can't see why it would be Google. I seem to remember another person with this problem. It was their anti virus program or anti spyware program writing all sorts of backup files. Along that same line, System Restore could also be suspect.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:15 AM

The Google Desktop requires one gigabyte of space on your hard drive for the install and may require up to four additional gigabytes for indexing. As your D: partition is only 3.30GB, it does not have enough space for the Google Desktop. Having never used it personally I don't know much about it, but is there a way you can move the data to a bigger partition?
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:09 AM

Here is more information, if it might help someone help me:

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 12:05 PM

Thanks people, I figured it all out.
Just fyi, I found that when installed, GDS will configure to
place the indexed files to:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Application Data\Google Desktop

But if there is insufficient space on the C: drive (I suppose <5GB)
then it will choose the D: Partition.

There is a utility called TweakGDS (available here <a href="http://podsync.com/downloads.htm">PodSync.com</a>) that allows the user to modify the default settings.

But apparently in my situation, I had allowd my C: drive to become too full, and GDS began indexing
in my D: partition without my knowledge. So now I've found about 3GB indexed files on
partition C: in the default folder, and also the 1GB that was mysteriously
in D: haha, a mess, as stuff has been strewn all over.

So, I decided to just uninstall and delete everything from both C: and D: and start over.

I won't have the problem now, because I got rid of abot 20GB of junk I had sitting around on
my C: drive. That's how I discovered the problem in the first place. I was trying to clear out
all the junk and found those files being indexed in D:.

But that is what happened, so if anybody is going to install Google Desktop Search, make sure you've got
at least 7GB free, or download the TweakGDS utility to configure it differently, or it does what it wants!! ha

But I still love the program for long time even tho it spies on me and phones home etc...hahaha

And CilyPudi thanks you for your attention to my dilemma.
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