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Blank, *., *.., 2 *desktop.ini, And A Slow Computer

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#1 heroOfTime64


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Posted 25 October 2007 - 09:38 PM


First, thank you for taking the time to read this message!

I got my dad's old Window's XP (don't know the exact version) after he got a new Vista... but I didn't get it in very good condition. Lately, it's been running, and especially starting up, VERY slowly. I started by defragmenting my C: (System) drive, and then running a virus check. Defragmenting did make a small difference, but very minimal. The virus check (by avast) yielded nothing. So I decided to check my Startup programs. I have a "Startup Cop" program that can remove or disable starup programs. I went through all of them, and decided which ones to disable, but there were a few I couldn't find, or were unsearchable because of their names...

First, I found one that was blank... it's from C:/WINDOWS/WIN.INI (load= line) I think this is to start windows.... is it?

next, I found 2 of a program called *. and *.. They are in the (...)/Start Menu/Programs/StartUp
It also shows two different *Desktop.ini - both from the same folder as above...

I wasn't sure if any of these were any type of virus or malware or whatever, so I was wondering if you could help me out! Also, I am currently in the proccess of deleting all those clutter programs that have been added on this computer through the years! Should I degragment after I finish with that? If anyone has any other suggestions on running my comp faster (already read the sticky at the top) I'm open to ideas. Also, I am learning Java... if that helps at all....

Thanks again!

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 10:34 PM

Hi heroOfTime64 and welcome to BleepingComputers.

Maybe someone else here will recognize the *.and* files that you are referring to but I found nothing when I googled it. If you are running scans with Avast I would suggest that you do this in safe mode as this is the most effective mode to do this, are you running any other security applications, do you have a fire wall? It would also help to have some system specs, make and model, amount of RAM, size of hdd and free space...

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:36 AM

The two basic steps I would do:

a. Run chkdsk from My Computer or from the XP CD (assuming that you have a valid XP CD and license). Put check marks in the boxes indicating that you want recovery and full scan (if you run it from My Computer).

How To Run CHKDSK In XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;en-us;Q315265

b. Check Event Viewer for errors of any type, all tabs.

What is the Event Viewer, and Should I Care - Ask Leo! - http://ask-leo.com/what_is_the_event_viewe...uld_i_care.html

That should give us something to go on.

How much RAM is installed in this system?

10 Reasons Why Your Computer Runs Slow - - http://www.bestsecuritytips.com/xfsection+...rticleid+43.htm

Slow Computer - http://www.theeldergeek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22278


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Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:11 PM

Alright, First off, sorry it took me so long to get to this, I've been busy with some other work...

It's XP home edition, I don't know any more that that...

My system HDD has 30 gigs on it with 6 free gigs left, and I have another with 132 gigs on it with 54 gigs free.... Now that I think about it, I could switch my system drive to the bigger one... would that make it run any faster? I have an Intel Celeron 1.3 GHz Processor and a little less than 800 meg ram... just to show, With this and AIM up, I'm using 465 meg of RAM.... I connect to my house's network with a Netgear WG111 @54Mbps, (though it normally runs around 20...)

I also set up a network for my house, so I set up a drive on my dad's new one on this comp. and visa versa.... (that took me awhile, as I had to set up the network, and never done anything like it before)

The computer is a 5410US Series 5000 and from HP. I realized I have some more problems, and I'll post those soon too.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 05:27 PM

Well one problem I can see is that windows Xp really needs at least 1024Mg of ram (because of all the other applications that run along with it), I have seen it run on less. My AMD paper weight has 768mg ( don't Use it much ). Although Micro$oft says it will run with as little as 64mb. To solve your problem with the unknown operating processes you can use a program called Autoruns. to disable anything that seems out of the ordinary or trying to hide itself. Anything with a blank space or an asterisk is probably not something you want. Reputable software will tell you who its from. You will need to run the program in safe mode.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 09:55 PM

OKay, I'm just making sure that these are all good things to do in this order:

1. Get rid of all those excess programs lying around in my Computer. (Is there anything better than Add/Remove Programs?)
2. Run a check disk and have it fix and restore.
3. Run a defrag.
4. Run my computer in safe mode and run avast.
5. Try to figure out the source of my unknown startup programs and what they do.
6. Come back here for more help! I think I'll need more help with number 5, as I don't want to mess up something crucial for my system...
7. I've also noticed that I have a TON of programs running in the background, and I don't know what a lot of them do....
With Aim, this and a couple other tabs, Notepad, and Event Viewer, I have 60 proccess running, Is that a normal amount?

Ummm I looked at my event viewer, but I'm not quite sure how to interpret them yet. If it would be helpful to post something about them I can.... I noticed for the past couple of days on system I got "Info Info error, Info Info error"(repeat) but it seemed to stop that today... I think that's a good thing....

My firewall is the Windows Firewall, Do I need a better one than that?

Once again, I appreciate your help!

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:17 AM

1.) Get rid of the excess programs.
Add/Remove is fine. Revo might be a little more complete, but anything 'left over' won't really be a problem anyway. Revo: http://www.download.com/Revo-Uninstaller/3...4-10727911.html

2.) Checkdisk! Absolutely! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

3.) Scannow to make sure your Windows installation is complete:

4.) Take out the garbage: ATF Cleaner. http://www.atribune.org/content/view/19/2/
No install. Save to desktop and run.

5.) Stop all the unnecessary auto-start processes: http://www.winpatrol.com/
Install and right click the small dog in the tray. Select "Display startup info." Click the process you want to stop once, to highlight, and then press the 'Disable' button. You can easily go back and 'enable' anytime you want.

6.) Get Process Explorer: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...ssExplorer.mspx
Configure it: http://www.5starsupport.com/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=8275

Check out what it is showing:
For information about the various processes, here are some good places to check:

Of course, you can always google'em.

7.) Do a complete defrag: http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/
Unzip and just run the JkDefrag.exe. No install required.
Ugly as sin, as effective as it is ugly.

8.) Do several on-line anti- scans: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1166058316 (Need to use IE)

9.) Install Comodo firewall: http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/

10.) Fully update Windows and all other applications, including Java.
(Uninstall all but the most recent Java--'6.3')

11.) Trim down your 'Services.' Compare and contrast the 2 sites to determine your needs. Set unwanted Services to "Manual." That way Windows can start them if needed.

12.) Get ERUNT and start it working for you:
ERUNT info and tutorial: http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/erunt.txt
Download free ERUNT: http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

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