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#1 vomog1

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 10:48 AM

Hi all
Having a spare 60Gb Hdisk; I thought I would stick it on a spare PC using WinME. Its a 1.2Gz pentium4 with 256DDRam. I reformatted the disk, installed ME ( Just to play around with some old hardware) I now find I only have 2Gb on C: Can someone tell me where I went wrong please? Incidently; even though I have the HDD jumpers on master; It always shows on slave. Please don't tell me I must reformat.

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 11:40 AM

Most likely you will have to in order to correct the drive geometry

How does the BIOS see the drive?
Is this the only drive in the system?
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:46 PM

Hi all
Having a spare 60Gb Hdisk; I thought I would stick it on a spare PC using WinME. Its a 1.2Gz pentium4 with 256DDRam. I reformatted the disk, installed ME ( Just to play around with some old hardware) I now find I only have 2Gb on C: Can someone tell me where I went wrong please? Incidently; even though I have the HDD jumpers on master; It always shows on slave. Please don't tell me I must reformat.

Cheers vomog

I'm a little confused. You had an old computer with ME on it already (spare PC using WinME) and you put in the spare hard drive and installed ME on it also?
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Posted 24 October 2007 - 02:04 PM

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Bad punctuation on my part. I installed WinME onto a free disk.

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 03:28 AM

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It is the only drive. the BIOS just shows it as"Primary slave" even though jumper is set for "Master"

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 07:58 AM

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It is the only drive. the BIOS just shows it as"Primary slave" even though jumper is set for "Master"

You have it at the end of the ribbon cable. correct? Try setting it to cable select. Instead of auto-select in the BIOS you can manually enter the info, in some cases. It's been a while since I've done it. I'd have to jog my memory. How old is this computer? Will it even recognize 60g properly? I don't think it will, Is large block addressing enabled in the BIOS? Is it even there? I have a real old one that does the same thing. I tried a 40g and it shows as slave no matter what and only 38g I use a live Linux CD in it until I can score a 20g drive
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Edited by garmanma, 25 October 2007 - 08:15 AM.

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:58 AM

The PC is not that old,5 yrs. In fact, this 60Gb disk, When on this PC, used to have XP on it. I can't find "Allow large blocking" in the BIOS. I've tried both connections on the IDE.
Any ideas??

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 12:04 PM

Did you try cable select on the jumper?
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 04:55 AM

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Did everything you suggested, no joy. Strange thing is; I took the disk off spare PC, put it on my present PC. Reformatted the drive. Converted it to NTFS, and it still shows 2 Gb. Would you say the disk is f****d.
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 08:25 AM

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Did everything you suggested, no joy. Strange thing is; I took the disk off spare PC, put it on my present PC. Reformatted the drive. Converted it to NTFS, and it still shows 2 Gb. Would you say the disk is f****d.
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Well, there must have been a reason it was just sitting around.
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:33 AM

Hi Mark
Just to let you know. I tried the disk jumper on the unmarked row of pins and I got the 60 Gb back. Not quite sure why!!
Must be a factory default or something.

Thanks for all your help Vomog

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:11 AM

Strange indeed, well you had nothing to lose. I'll have to remember that one. Glad you got it working You still might want to run some diagnostics on it to be sure
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 03:04 PM

A pair of those pins on the drive are designed to deliberately limit it's capacity to 2GB when used in old, legacy computers, as you have just discovered.
It's called in the trade "capacity clipping". The next higher clipping point is usually 32GB. Without this, some old systems wouldn't see the drive at all, let alone only some of it. These clipping points are quite common now that low-capacity disks are no longer available but there is still a need for them on older computers who can't use high-capacity disks. The solution is to provide some means of clipping back or limiting the capacity on new disks.

Edited by pip22, 29 October 2007 - 03:22 PM.





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