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1st Time Build, High End Pc, Non-gamer


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#1 ksmart

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Posted 20 October 2007 - 06:56 PM

Hi,

I am building my first PC. I have an x-box 360 and do not play PC games at all. Other than normal daily usage stuff I download / burn alot of DVDs and watch movies and T.V. on my computer. I would like to build a High End PC that will enable me to do these things (fast) and still allow me the ability to perform other CPU and memory intensive functions as needed. I have done quite a bit of research and I can't quite decide on which CPU and motherboard will best fit my needs. I plan to buy a GeForce 8800GTS, 4 GB of DDR-800 RAM, a Raptor 150GB HD for the OS and a 500GB Hitachi HD for everything else. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I am debating between the Intel e6850 and the Q6600. I have read alot of debates over these two CPU's but the debate seems to center around gaming, so I have a hard time relating the comparison's to my intended usage. I would greatly appreciate any input / suggestions as to what CPU / MOBO combo would best suit my needs.

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Posted 20 October 2007 - 07:17 PM

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I don't think its necessary to get that nice of a graphics card at all if your not gaming. Even if you want to multi-screen set up you could get a 50$ card that would be really good. Spend that money on something else.

The E6850 is faster on less applications, but the quad core will do better with more applications. The thing is the E6850 is already plenty good at multitasking, and if your only doing maybe like 3 or 4 things at a time, having a slower quad core wouldn't be as good as a faster dual core.

If you really wanted some insane speed, you could set up two raptor hard drives in raid. This might be very expensive though.

You could probably get a good 100$ motherboard that would be sufficient enough. Make sure not to skimp on the power supply (especially if you still want to get an 8800GTS)

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Posted 20 October 2007 - 07:46 PM

Thanks for the response,
I think I will go with the e6850. As or the graphics card, the 8800GTS may be overkill but I want to make sure I am not limiting myself. I will compare some lower end cards. If I go with 2 Raptor Hard Drives in raid what size should I go with? Would 2 150 GB HDs be sufficient?

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 04:31 AM

2 150gb raptor hard drives would be sufficient if 300gb total is enough for you. I've never used raptor hard drives, or raid, but I've heard and read that both can really boost the speed of your system!
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 05:27 AM

RAID won't give you any performance increase unless you have a dedicated RAID controller. Generally not worth it.

Two Raptors is an expensive choice in a $/GB way of looking at things. The reason Raptors are so small is that thye use only the high-performance outer edge of the hard drive. What you should do is get one or two big, high performance 7200 hard drives, like Hitachi 7K1000 1TB, and partition each into two partitions with a small ~100GB on the outer edge of the hard drive. This small partition will be almost as fast as a Raptor and then you have another 800GB partition for storage.
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 07:32 AM

32 bit versions of Windows won't recognize your full 4 gB of RAM (each of my 4 gB systems only recognizes 3.26 gB of RAM). So, if you're interested in getting it all recognized, then you'll have to go with a 64 bit OS.

But, if you go with a 64 bit OS - will all your devices and applications work with it? Finding 64 bit drivers is a real PITA - especially if everything is up and running but that one critical device. It pays to do the research beforehand. Applications will generally run OK - but they'll be run sort of like 16 bit apps are run now (using an "emulator" of sorts).

FWIW - I'm considering upgrading to a 64 bit version of Vista as I don't change my hardware very often - but then again, I'm not sure I want to work with apps in 32 bit mode (although the opportunity to upgrade to 8 gB of RAM is very compelling for me!).
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Posted 25 October 2007 - 01:02 AM

32 bit versions of Windows won't recognize your full 4 gB of RAM (each of my 4 gB systems only recognizes 3.26 gB of RAM). So, if you're interested in getting it all recognized, then you'll have to go with a 64 bit OS.

But, if you go with a 64 bit OS - will all your devices and applications work with it? Finding 64 bit drivers is a real PITA - especially if everything is up and running but that one critical device. It pays to do the research beforehand. Applications will generally run OK - but they'll be run sort of like 16 bit apps are run now (using an "emulator" of sorts).

FWIW - I'm considering upgrading to a 64 bit version of Vista as I don't change my hardware very often - but then again, I'm not sure I want to work with apps in 32 bit mode (although the opportunity to upgrade to 8 gB of RAM is very compelling for me!).



When you say that windows doesnt recognize all your ram... does that mean that your not getting to use the full capacity out of your ram (only 3.26 instead of 4gb) or does that mean that when you go system information the ram number or amount of ram displayed in the window will only go up to 3.26 because that windows version wont display a RAM amount higher than that?
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 01:21 PM

I done alot of research and put together a list of components for my build:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail

RAM: 2 x Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

HARD DRIVE: 1 x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 R6PM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM &

1 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

GPU- EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

POWER SUPPLY - OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply - Retail

CPU FAN - ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail

I would appreciate it if anyone with experience could give me any input as to whether or not these components will suit my needs or if I should revise my list.

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 03:57 AM

they will suit you needs x111000

thats a pretty good system considering what you want to do, you could save alot of money on that system if u got lesser(specifications) components IE: a p35 mobo, 2gb of ram, like a 600watt psu and keep the stocko heatsink+fan for your cpu
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 06:52 AM

Ya looks good! As 4ward tristan said you could get a a better psu with less wattage, maybe like 500 watts, but its really no big deal. You won't need better cooling unless maybe you want to overclock. Instead of buying a better heatsink, you should just a tube of arctic silver 5. Arctic silver 5 . That stuff will keep your processor really cool.

Edited by Sterling14, 04 November 2007 - 06:54 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 01:21 PM

check my profile for my computer specs.

i do some very resource heavy audio work on my system and i rarely gives me a hiccup.

i'm very happy with my system. :thumbsup:
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