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Well- I already blew it by posting a problem in this section of the site, after spending half an hour trying to figure out how to post an introduction-- shows how much help I need-- I use an old iMac with 8.6-- a hand me down from my daughter-- and use it as little as possible, but knowing about these things seems to a a requirement in the world today. I look forward to learning a bit more. thanks to Jack the Haak for telling me I did something wrong. Adios for now-- Hisus