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#1 abdulla al mozgoeb

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 11:47 AM

Hi all,

i have Celeron 1.2 Ghz, 512 RAM, 2 x HDD (40 and 80 gb). Win XP Pro, Norton Antivirus 2007.

I have made complete virus scan, defragmentation and checked only the programs I need in the start-up.

So, what is the problem. When I am starting some programms (skype, word, IE, PS) - the computer is slowing down, and then working normally. By slowing down I mean not just slowing a little bit, but a very strong slowing down: e.g. the music in winamp is stopping or playing slower, and I cant do nothing while the program is starting.

The strange is that never happened before. And Norton also worked very good.

What can You suggest?

Thanx.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 12:24 PM

Here are some questions I like to ask for understanding "performance" issues. Look at items 5 and 6 in particular but answer all the rest as applicable:

0 > when did the problem seem to be begin?
1 > is it very slow to boot up?
2 > do programs open slowly?
3 > does the same behavior occur both on and off the internet. Or with no connection at all?
4 > does it matter how long the system has been on, and does a restart improve things?

Slow performance issues can often be due to overheating, so if the system is faster after it has been shutdown for a while and then restarted -- that would be especially suspect. To check for possible problems here, shutdown, open the case and blow out any accumulated dust. Then turn it
on and check to see that the fan is working. Sometimes it helps to physically clean the fan.

If a laptop, check to see that the vent is clear of dust and verify the fan is working. Temps and fan speed can usually be monitored with SpeedFan (except on Dell desktops), a free utility.

5 > if you do a ctrl-alt-del, do any processes show excess cpu usage, other than System Idle Process?

6 > If you open the Device Manager (run devmgmt.msc) and select the entry for IDE ATA/Atapi and select the Primary IDE > Advanced Settings, does it say the "current transfer mode" is Ultra DMA or PIO?

If it says PIO or even just DMA (rather than “ULTRA” DMA, first ensure "Use DMA if Available” is selected, then select the driver tab and uninstall the driver and reboot. Then check again.

*note that the above will not apply to RAID drive configurations.
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COMMIT CHARGE

Do ctrl-alt-del to open up the task manager. Select the "performance" tab. Let me know what you see under:

Physical Memory

Total: this is your total installed ram -- "physical" memory
Available: this is the amt of real "physical" memory presently uncommitted

Commit Charge

Total: this is the combination of total physical and virtual memory currently in use
Limit: this is the total physical and virtual memory available
Peak: this is the most you have had in use in this session


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Edited by TMacK, 10 October 2007 - 03:04 PM.

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#3 abdulla al mozgoeb

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:02 PM

0. the problem began some 2 weeks ago. and i neved had it before.
1. yes, it is mega slow to boot up - the black screen is running some 2 minutes, then win xp logo appears, then "welcome", then desktop, then after some 2 minutes NAV 2007 in the tray.
2. programs are opening a bit slower, but not critically
3. have not tried it offline. should I?
4. restart does not help. i opened the case, cleaned all the dust, cleaned the cpu cooler and adapter cooler with vacuum cleaner, still nothing.
5. ctrl + adl + del is showing the following:

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6. device manager says the following:

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if You need more info, please let me know. thanx.

p.s. the computer started to breath much better after the defragmentation. but still the problems i have described exist.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:27 PM

I see no mention of a malware check...

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:40 PM

Try some of these.

http://computercleanup.blogspot.com/

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:17 PM

Your Primary IDE channel on which the boot drive is probably installed is in PIO mode.

To fix it you can do one of two things -- either follow the instructions in item 6 or run the .vbs script available on the link below -- then reboot. I believe the vbs script may add some additional protection against this recurring by patching the registry.

http://winhlp.com/node/10

After doing this check the Device Manager in the same location and verify that it now says that channel 0 has a "current transfer mode" of Ultra DMA 5 or more as you see in "channel 1"
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 11:35 PM

now it is DMA everywhere. system boot became a bit faster. this is all, or I can do some more? :thumbsup:

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 12:03 PM

All disk access should be faster, such as opening programs or when virtual memory is in greater use (usually when you have a lot of things running)

You have adequate ram.

I can't tell from the process list everything you have running -- but you may be able to disable some startups in msconfig > startup tab for faster booting.

Good candidates for this are media players like "winamp" and any office type programs . These can be started on an as needed basis.



Not sure what else I can suggest.
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Posted 12 October 2007 - 02:06 PM

Nice work, RR :thumbsup:.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 05:23 PM

Thanks, :thumbsup:
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