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#1 cumbiamo

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:02 AM

OK so I have an older Mobo MS-7125. It has a socket 939. Pretty Sure its AMD 3000+ and 1.8 GHZ. Wondering the groups thought on upgrading the CPU to extend the PC's life? If so, which one.

These are my options at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompa...N82E16819103037

May also need a cooler. Also just found out my video card Geforce GT 6600's fan died and not spinning. Not sure how long ago, but not fried. I have 3 fans blowing air out and 1 in so maybe that's keeping it cool enough ...

Anyway, back to topic. The price just jumped $15 for the 4200. So potential cost would be:

CPU 80
Fan 20 (wide range - would go with least priced compatible)
grease 10

System is running OK for what I do other than video rendering time would likely improve... Thanks

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:59 AM

How much RAM do you have?

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 11:53 AM

I would say that going to a dual-core could give a nice bump in performance. As dc3 is implying adding RAM is also a good way to extend the life of a computer.

If the fan on the 6600GT died I would defiantly look into having it replaced. The case fans may keep it cool enough that you aren't getting any artifacts, but a HSF with a fan is generally not designed to be able to cool without the fan. The increased temperatures will shorten the lifespan of the card.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 12:49 PM

I have 1 GB using only two of the DIMM slots I have so I could potentially go without major cost to 2 GB.. I didn't think I could fix the fan on the video card - guess I assumed it was integrated but didn't really look at it very close. I'll get my tools and see what I can do then.... should I then go for the chip or ram?

fastest chip? Also, a dual core would run hotter than single so I should go ahead and get a compatible heatsink? If so, do retail boxes come with them matched vs. OEM?

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 12:56 PM

I have 1 GB using only two of the DIMM slots I have so I could potentially go without major cost to 2 GB.. I didn't think I could fix the fan on the video card - guess I assumed it was integrated but didn't really look at it very close. I'll get my tools and see what I can do then.... should I then go for the chip or ram?

fastest chip? Also, a dual core would run hotter than single so I should go ahead and get a compatible heatsink? If so, do retail boxes come with them matched vs. OEM?



Because here would be the other pricier options:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....name=Socket+939

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 02:23 PM

retail-sold CPUs come with a stock heatsink that seems to perform pretty well, at least well enough to run the thing at stock settings. aftermarket fans are for if you are either dissatisfied with the HSF or you want to overclock. You should really see what the stock can do before buying an aftermarket. OEM processors do not come with fans. Be sure to get Arctic Silver 5. I wouldn't worry about your ram so much as your video card. Depending on the price of a new fan on the GPU, you may consider bumping up to a 7600GS or something in the 7 series or maybe even a cheaper 8 series...
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:12 PM

I would get the X2 3800 and a good HSF and try to overclock(most video apps are multithreaded now)

I already have a athlon64 venice 3000 running at 250(+25%) with pc500 ram

or buy the HSF and try to overclock yours

cheap ram is what holds everybody back tho
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:01 PM

6600GT replacement fan
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:06 PM

OK ... garmanma gave me the specs on the replacement fan for my video card .. almost $40 .. not sure I want to put that into a card I might just replace anyway ... so with that in mind... my plan based on DaChew's comment would be to get another gig of ram first ... see how that works and hope my vid card holds up a little longer. forget the chip upgrade and start saving for a good value/performance grphics card which I think will now (w/o a fan) just a matter of time.. Thanks for the advice guys you are truly very helpful.

Top picks for a card under a hundie might be? I perform some video rendering and although not a heavy gamer.. would like to find a good FPS... I was addicted to Black Hawk Down for 3 plus years... not big multitasking either... so I may be able to get away with a mid level card huh.

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:50 PM

The least expensive quick way to increase you performance will be to add more RAM as previously stated. I would suggest that you save your money and go for a new build rather than replacing the CPU on that 939 board, the speed of the newer CPUs are so much better that it's worth doing the complete upgrade. It has been suggested that you try overclocking, this can squeeze out a little more performance but can also reduce the life span of the item you overclock. I would suggest talking with someone that has experience with overclocking to get a full understanding before you attempt this yourself, you could wind up updating sooner than anticipated.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 06:29 AM

you can buy 2 gigs of premium ddr2 for less than a gig of premium ddr1 would cost, if you already have a gig and don't game that much, or multitask and use single core then a ram upgrade doesn't make any sense

going to a dual core for 60$ plus the cost of a HSF

go from a single 1.8Ghz to 2 x 2Ghz cores will increase video encoding performance dramatically

however cas 3 pc400 ram is going to be the bottleneck and would kill the upgrade

the athlon64 3000 was probably one of the safest cpu's to overclock

mine's been running 25-40% above stock for a year and a half

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 11:33 AM

OK ... garmanma gave me the specs on the replacement fan for my video card .. almost $40 .. not sure I want to put that into a card I might just replace anyway ... so with that in mind... my plan based on DaChew's comment would be to get another gig of ram first ... see how that works and hope my vid card holds up a little longer. forget the chip upgrade and start saving for a good value/performance grphics card which I think will now (w/o a fan) just a matter of time.. Thanks for the advice guys you are truly very helpful.

Top picks for a card under a hundie might be? I perform some video rendering and although not a heavy gamer.. would like to find a good FPS... I was addicted to Black Hawk Down for 3 plus years... not big multitasking either... so I may be able to get away with a mid level card huh.

$9.00+shp.
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