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Looking To Buy A New Computer...or Build One


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#1 MattRiddle

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 10:00 AM

Okay, so I've been waiting for a long time to get a new computer. My current computer is VERY old (like 2000 old) but it's done be well and played all the new games (like WoW) and let me use Photoshop to my heart's desire. But I need a new one for more complicated projects like Adobe Premiere and Blender 3d. So I'm looking to buy a new computer that can meet my requirements or build one (even though I've never done it before). Here are the specs I am looking for. I got most off of Adobe's website.

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs/

* 2 GB Ram
* DVD+-R burner /ROM
* Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHz
* 32-bit video card fully supported by Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/products/premie...raphic&format=)
* Windows XP
* Decent size hard drive.

I already have a monitor that is flat screen and is nice and large. And I plan to give my old computer to my mom to use, so I can't take any parts out of it.

My budget is probably $700 if that is do-able. If you can find better parts for that budget, be my guest, but it needs to work with Adobe Premiere (main goal).

If anyone can help me, I'd be so appreciative.

Thanks so much

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:16 PM

I went to dell.com and this was a computer I was able to come up with:

Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6550 (4MB L2 Cache,2.33GHz,1333 FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs
320GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
16X DVD+/-RW Drive
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3

All together, this would cost me $859. It's a bit over budget, and I have no idea if it would meet the requirements of what I posted above. Processors CONFUSE me how some with lower GHz perform better than some with higher GHz and how certain RAM is better than other. I can't tell which would be better.

I know I could make a computer for cheaper than above, but how much cheaper?

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:39 PM

Well if you got a p4 instead of the core 2 duo you could probably build it yourself for around your budget with those same specs
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:56 PM

Is that a good processor? Will that work for what I need? I don't know how good it is compared to what I listed that I found on Adobe's website.

I REALLY don't want Vista, but there is no way to unselect it.

I REALLY don't need a 320GB hard drive. I'm sitting quite snug in my 40GB hard drive at the moment and I could maybe see a 100GB, but 320? WHAT?

Is the video card good? Is 256MB low? Is that a good brand and class of video card?

Thanks all

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:57 PM

I think the 256mb vid card is about normal, and will do decent for what you want...

If you want XP, you're going to have to like go insane trying to find one thats prebuilt... I've looked around and the only thing was an XP pro labtop(HP) Course, Its over budget and doesn't have enough RAM and everything.

Look at this....

If you take off the monitor, boost the graphics card to 128nvidia, you'll be decent. I would recommend just buying some other RAM of newegg or somewhere else though, because to get a computer with more RAM is way more...

Thats the best I got....

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:59 PM

Parts can be found atNewegg.com

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: CAC-T05-WW
Item #: N82E16811119077

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate $54.99 -$8.00 Instant $46
MSI K9N SLI Platinum AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K9N SLI Platinum
Item #: N82E16813130048

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock EVGA 512-P2-N747-LR GeForce 8500GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: 512-P2-N747-LR
Item #: N82E16814130285

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate $99.99 -$5.00 Instant $94. $124.99 -$5.00 Instant $119.9

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: RP-550-PCAR
Item #: N82E16817171016

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In Stock $69.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+(65W) Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4200CUBOX - Retail
Model #: ADO4200CUBOX
Item #: N82E16819103741

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In Stock $74.99 $74.99 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
Model #: TWIN2X2048-6400
Item #: N82E16820145590

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In Stock
Mail-in Rebate $90.00 $90.

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD3200AAKS
Item #: N82E16822136074

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock $79.99 -$5.00 Instant $74.99 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
Model #: LH-20A1H-185
Item #: N82E16827106055

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In Stock $31.99 $31.99
Subtotal: $603.93

That doesn't include any operating system. XP pro will run you 286.99 at newegg

Edited by Sneakycyber, 18 September 2007 - 05:12 PM.

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:43 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116059

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116056


you might shave a little on the case and power supply
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Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:39 PM

Thanks so much for going through the work to find these items. The only thing I am concerned about is the processor. Would Adobe products support the processor? On Adobe's website, it says, "SSE2-enabled processor required for AMD systems". Does this processor have SSE2 enabled?

Again, thanks.

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:54 PM

under specification at the newegg link

Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional


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Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:01 PM

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishli...tNumber=4948574

That one is decent, but you'd probably have to find a bit cheaper Motherboard and hard drive to get a bit better processor.

Oh, wait, you'd need an OS too...

Edited by Vaerli, 18 September 2007 - 11:02 PM.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 08:12 AM

Would I be able to upgrade my computer later on, like upgrade the processor? Or would I have to change my motherboard too? That's the problem I have with my current computer. It's so old that if I wanted a better processor, I'd have to replace the motherboard, so I decided to just make a new computer.

Would I be able to replace the video card without having to replace the motherboard? I'm thinking long-term here, not just at this very moment.

Thanks

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 02:50 PM

PCI Express will be upgradeable for at least a year unless you need the latest and greatest available. The processor will be upgradeable for at least a year or two depending on when AMD or Intel release a new socket design and depending on what manufacture you go with. I don't see either of these technology's disappearing soon. The parts that I recommended are middle to high end with room for improvement. The fastest processor from AMD will run on that motherboard and the fastest graphics card out there will run on that motherboard too, actually you could run 2 of them in SLI if its an Nvidia card.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:44 PM

I looked through dell and found this.

PROCESSOR : Intel® Core™ 2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition with re-installation CD
MEMORY: 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
HARD DRIVE: 320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
OPTICAL DRIVE: Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
VIDEO CARD: 256MB nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS

It would cost me $1149

Is this worth the money?

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 04:12 PM

Your paying a premium for a quad core processor, If your using Adobe Creative suite, corel direct draw or a program that will utilize a quad core processor and this is the primary use for the computer you will bennifit from a quad core. If you only use Adobe sometime and the computers primary use is for something else you could save a little money by going with a dual core processor.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 04:19 PM

I'd go with the core 2 duo. Premier will utilize the 2nd processor. Premier is also rumored to be able to utilize the quad core cpu also (when rendering/filtering etc.). I'd try to go with the core 2 duo rather than a P4, as I think you'll get more out of it. Premier is a cpu intensive program (as most video editing programs are), so the better the cpu you have, the better off you'll be! At work, we jumped from a P4 3.06 with hyper threading to a quad core and I was simply dumbfounded by the increase in speed-it was at least a 50% speed boost from P4 3.06 to 2.6 quad core. I'm sure that you'll see close to that if you go with a dual core rather than a single core.
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