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#1 racingfan

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 09:59 AM

Hello,
I use a Hotmail email address and I have my "Junk Mail Filter" set to "Exclusive" so that the only emails that arrive in my inbox are from addresses that are in my address book. But I keep getting this one particular email and I can not block it.
The email comes as "admin@viagra.com". I also have my email setup to show "Full message headers". When I look at the email header it says that it is from my email address. When I try to block it I get an error message that says "It is illegal to block your email address". And therefore it does not block it. I went into my email options and clicked on "Block Senders" and added "admin@viagra.com" to the list but the emails still get through. Also, when I forward any email to friends I can see my address in my favorites list, but when I look in my address book I do not see my address, is that normal?
I've forwarded the emails from "admin@viagra.com" to "SPAM@UCE.gov" but I still keep getting this email. Again, the email in question appears to be coming from the same email address that is recieving it. Can someone help me figure this out please? Thanks in advance!

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 02:36 PM

Hi racingfan,

Try to block all mail coming from a specific domain in Hotmail:

Go to Options.
Select Junk E-Mail Protection.
Follow the Block Senders link.
Type the the domain name you want to block in the input field.
Select Add.

If you enter "viagra.com", for example, all mail from email.guide@viagra.com, joe@viagra.com and so on will be blocked from your Hotmail Inbox.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 02:51 PM

have you recently checked to see if an infection has not crept onto your computer and somehow corrupted OE?

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 06:46 PM

have you recently checked to see if an infection has not crept onto your computer and somehow corrupted OE?

Yes, I have Ad-Aware SE, SpyBot S&D, and AVG Free, no nasties found other than data miners/tracking cookies.
I've been having this problem for about 1 month or more.

TMack, I've done what you suggest actually about 2 weeks ago. But the emails still get through. And what gets me is that they appear to be coming from my email address. When I look at the Message Header the reply to address is "admin@viagra.com, myaddy@hotmail.com". So it looks as though the email is coming from the same address that is recieving it. :thumbsup:

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 05:59 AM

have you tried setting up a completley NEW account , using the same addy of course, and see what success you have with THAT?

try scanning with both of these very good free programs ?
superantispyware

asquared

see if they drag up something perhaps?

may I also suggest that, to prevent addys being coppied by spam bots ,you do this with them

e.g.
myaddyATwiscom.com(change the @ to an AT) and do not put your REAL addy on public forum else you WILL be spammed to death :thumbsup:

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:21 AM

have you tried setting up a completley NEW account , using the same addy of course, and see what success you have with THAT?

try scanning with both of these very good free programs ?
superantispyware

asquared

see if they drag up something perhaps?

may I also suggest that, to prevent addys being coppied by spam bots ,you do this with them

e.g.
myaddyATwiscom.com(change the @ to an AT) and do not put your REAL addy on public forum else you WILL be spammed to death :thumbsup:

Can't set up a new email account with the same name because I get the "that username is already in use" message.
Superantispyware and Asquared scans come back clean.
I do not post my email address on any public forums.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks!

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:44 AM

a few suggestions to try
have you tried a system restore to BEFORE this happened?

you can remove the account completely from OE and set it up as a fresh new one

you can post an HJT log in HJT logs section and let a log expert see if they can see anything untoward going on the comp?

have you ever opened an email from an unknown/suspicious addy or an attachement you were NOT expecting ?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:49 PM

Yes, I've done a system restore recently, about a week ago, and I went back to about 2 months prior to having this problem.

Sorry but I don't understand this part "you can remove the account completely from OE and set it up as a fresh new one". Can you tell me how I do that?

I had my HJT log looked at about a month ago, it was clean. I ran it again just before posting this reply and compared it to the clean log that I had someone here at BC look at and there was nothing different at all.

I never open attachments in emails from unknown senders. I have opened "spoof" emails that appeared to be from ebay, however, I never click on anything in those spoof emails but I do forward them to ebay's Security Team. They ask that you do so and tell you where to send it.

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:08 PM

to delete an account in oe

OE/tools/accounts/mail/select appropriate account adddy/find the remove tab on the right and click on it;


I suggest you make sure you know ALL of the settings you require BEFORE you DO delete the account as , once deleted, you cannot copy it

as to opening 'spoof' emails ; why open or even download anything you do not recognise?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:20 PM

to delete an account in oe

as to opening 'spoof' emails ; why open or even download anything you do not recognise?

Because I get emails from ebay that are not spoofs, and until you open the email you can't tell that it is a spoof. what gives it away is that the spoofs always ask that you "click the link below to update your account info". Which I never do.
So it's not a matter of opening emails from someone I don't know. The headers on the spoofs are forged and the subject line doesn't say anything about updating anything, it usually says stuff like "listing sale" or it will appear to be from an ebay member with a question about something you're selling.

I still don't get what you're saying about deleting the email account. I know how to log into my hotmail account and close the account that way, is that what you mean? Or are you saying to delete it off my computer? That I don't know how to do.
I don't get what you are telling me to do here: "OE/tools/accounts/mail/select appropriate account adddy/find the remove tab on the right and click on it;" I guess the "OE" part is what I don't get, what is "OE"?
Sorry.
Thanks for the help though! :thumbsup:

Edited by racingfan, 30 August 2007 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2007 - 01:37 PM

:thumbsup: I guess one should have clarified at the start if you are reading mails on the server or in Outlook express ; sounds like you are on the server?

will it let you apply for/create a DIFFERENT e mail address? perhaps check on the server to see?
the information on this link might help?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...21194347AAG7ipL

scroll down to the 'other answers 'section for a link that should help you

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:40 PM

:thumbsup: I guess one should have clarified at the start if you are reading mails on the server or in Outlook express ; sounds like you are on the server?

will it let you apply for/create a DIFFERENT e mail address? perhaps check on the server to see?
the information on this link might help?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...21194347AAG7ipL

scroll down to the 'other answers 'section for a link that should help you

Okay, I don't use Outlook Express, I just sign in to my hotmail account on the server. I guess I didn't realize there was any difference, I thought Outlook was just another way of viewing/sending emails.
I could change my email address but I've had this one for years and don't really want to change it now. Last resort I guess.
And I'll check the link you provided. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:40 AM

lets clarify some points; there are several ways TO send and receive e mails; you have chosen to use the server;others use what are called e mail clients; Outlook express, Microsoft Outlook and windows mail are three tools that I know of ; these are programs on the person,s computer ( if you check on your you will probably find you have the first two?)

problem with THAT though is that , if you ARE mailing from a computer ,you need to ensure, as far as humanly (and programable) possible , that your computer is free from viruses, bugs, Trojans and the like ;ALL these nasties can wreak havoc on a computer and make it unusable ;

if you send an email FROM an infected computer,that email CAN infect the recipient's computer ; other issue is that it is possible for people to NOT know they ARE infected by NOT appropriately protecting themselves against such nasties;

MY view with YOUR particular problem is that your email address has somehow become corrupted; it is possible that someone you are in emai contact with does have an infection on their computer and does not realise it?

by your own admission you are also being asked to open and forward spam e mails

I never click on anything in those spoof emails but I do forward them to ebay's Security Team. They ask that you do so and tell you where to send it.


I think you need to set up a completely NEW e mail address, ; using your present address I suggest you ask those who have contacted you to see when they last checked their computers for infections

with the new address only contact those whom you can be certain ARE infection free;

and ; who is your ISP as they should have provided you WITH an e mail address


see how you get on with that?

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:05 AM

"with the new address only contact those whom you can be certain ARE infection free"
If they don't know that they are infected....how in the world can I be certain that they are infection free?

Yes my ISP provided me with an email address, I use that email also. But the email I'm having this problem with is the one that I use for ebay and other business stuff and I really didn't want to have to go through changing the email address and then having to notify everyone in my address book of the new address. I've been using this email for years. But I guess that may be my only option.
You seem to be stuck on it being an infection of some kind. But my machine is clean. The headers on the questionable emails is a "Forged Header". I'm just trying to figure out how to block them. If it is caused by someone in my contacts list being infected then how will a new address change anything if that same person is again listed in my contacts list?
Whether I use Outlook or any other program to view emails, I'm still viewing the emails at that address, so what's the difference?
And I'm very well aware of the havoc that nasties can create. But like I said, my machine is clean according to a pro here at BC that checked my HJT log and had me run a few other scans. So, being that my machine is clean, I posted this question here in an attempt to find an answer to the problem.
I'm begining to think that someone is deliberately targeting me. So I guess an email change my be the best option since I'm not sure what else to do.
Thanks!

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 11:36 AM

My take on the problem is that another computer, one that has your E-mail address on its hard drive for whatever reason, has become infected, for example, by a spambot; hence, you are receiving spam E-mails from a forged address, in this case your own. Spammers are clever enough to realise that you cannot block on your own E-mail address on some E-mail providers, and take advantage of this.
I have not used Hotmail for some time, but if you can set up personal filtres there, and there is a pattern of E-mail subjects (viagra, for example) you may be able to reduce the number of spam E-mails that are appearing in your In-box.
Cheers,
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