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Building New Gaming Pc - Help!


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#1 cakey

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 07:34 PM

I need a new PC.
Budget: £900-1200ish.
I am interesting in Overclocked, so I need a cpu cooler, i was considering a tuniq 120, but i'm a bit overwhelmed by the choices, any help would be great.
The x1950 is a temporary card, with the intention of upgrading when the 9800's come out, or maybe later if its still serving me well. Either this or buy a 8800 right now.
I need to know what you reckon the best place to buy these components is, I'm considering Overclockers, and Dabs among others.(These prices are from overclockers btw)

Thanks for any help you can give me. (Likely to buy in the next few days)

Current proposal:


Asus ATI Radeon X1950 Pro HTDP 256MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
(£96.34)

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
(£70.49)

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.66GHz (1333FSB) - Retail (£129.24)

Samsung SpinPoint T HD501LJ 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM
(£62.26)

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition inc. SP2 - OEM - 1Pk (N09-01528)
(£56.39)

Asus P5K SE Intel P35 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
(£76.36)

NEC AD7170S Serial ATA 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
(£19.96)

Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x1GB)
(£78.71)

Zalman ZM600-HP Heatpipe Cooled 600W Modular PSU
(£82.24)

Samsung SM-206BW 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black
(£176.24)

Logitech G11 Gaming-Grade Illuminated Keyboard - Retail
(£39.94)

Razer Copperhead Tempest Blue 2000dpi High Precision Gaming Mouse - Retail
(£41.11)

Logitech Z-4 2.1 40 Watts Speakers - Retail
(£52.82)

Total : £1,011.42 (inc delivery)

+cost of heatsink

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 10:06 AM

Will a 9800 even be compatible with my motherboard?

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 10:21 AM

2 recommendations: a different monitor, the LG Flatron 20", which is supposedly really good and made it into PCMag. It's rated for 2 milliseconds, which mean absolutely no ghosting even at highest framerates. The Flatron will save you 50 pounds.
a different video card. If you want a little better temp card, get a, 8600GTS. It's a DX10 card with a much higher clock than the X1950 and has one of the best cooling fans offered by MSI. It costs about 12 pounds more.
And if you can also afford another 40 pounds more, get a ThermalTake Armor case. It's about the sexiest, heaviest thing known to man. Solid steel and aluminum structure, 10 5.25" drive bays, 6 HDD 3.5" racks, and a lot of customizability. And it weighs 20Kgs.

So, those changes will make a big difference in your computer and the switchover actually only costs about 2 pounds more and in the end is worth every penny.

Edited by Ryan 3000, 24 August 2007 - 10:28 AM.

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 10:57 AM

The benchmarks show the x1950 pro being better, for cheaper...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_200...4&chart=297
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I can't find that monitor anywhere here in the UK =(

Any reason why I need a thermaltake?

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 11:19 AM

The benchmarks show the x1950 pro being better, for cheaper...

OK I did check TomsHardware and EVEN THOUGH the 8600GTS benchmarked on there is 10% slower than the MSI variant, HardwareSecrets did show the MSI variant to be slower than the X1950 Pro. The only thing I can say to support the 8600 right now is that it runs DX10. Enjoy your new rig!

I can't find that monitor anywhere here in the UK =(

Try searching without the Flatron part, just search for L206WTY-BF

Any reason why I need a thermaltake?

It's got 4 fans. I actually think this tank of a tower could pick up girls. But anyway, no other reason besides looking awesome and better cooling.

Edited by Ryan 3000, 24 August 2007 - 11:40 AM.

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 11:32 AM

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quick...835#description

forget the nec drive, this new samsung has redefined dvd burning, they are selling out fast everywhere

ricoh is bring out 16x dual layer media soon and this drive is ready to go
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Posted 24 August 2007 - 11:38 AM

The x1950 pro is faster than the 8600GTS hands down. Nothing is know about the 9800 yet. I don't expect it to be out until late next year at the earliest. That said it will most likely be a PCIe/PCIe2 card and the they are cross-compatible so you should be good.

The Antec case is good, and has great cooling, possibly better than the Armour. No reason to go to the Armour unless you really want to. One down side with it is that screwing the hard drives in place is a PITA.

A cooler for overclocking I would look for the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. It is the best air-cooler out there. It does not come with a fan so you would have get a good fan, such as a SilenX iXtreme Pro 120mm fan.

For a monitor I would go with a Samsung SyncMaster 225BW, if you can find it, but the one you have selected is really nice as well.

Edited by Mr Alpha, 24 August 2007 - 11:39 AM.

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Posted 24 August 2007 - 11:48 AM

So what is the best sound:CFM ratio in fans right now?
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 07:00 AM

Hi, as from what I could see, you do have a tight budget but is high at least.

Your parts seem fairly fine to me, but since you are into overclocking, I would personally change the motherboard and go for Asus Blitz Formula SE iP35 which is one of the best for overclocking. As regards the videocard I would choose the 728MB BFG PCI-Express GF 8800GTX immediately or there is the same card I mentioned but the overclocked version which is about 200 pounds extra which is not worthed since you could overcloked it yourself. Also the CPU is good but I would go for the Intel Core2QUAD 6600 GO 2.40Ghz 1066Mhz FSB which could be overcloked to 4Ghz easily and thus you would have 4*4 which would give you a total of 16Ghz (which are pretty good these days). Lastly, about the ram I would either choose a DDR2 1066Mhz or a DDR3 1333+Mhz so that you would use the full output of the CPU (hope you could understand what I ment). Last but not lest, I would go fot the windows Vista Home Premium since it is the new XP which much more features and is the lastest since you would like to buy the latest things from what I could see.

Hope this is to a good help for you.




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