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#1 dsfan68

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 01:58 PM

OK. You know how when you hit ctrl/alt/del and all the programs that are running will show up? My computer runs slow so I was told that shutting some things down would help. I know all I really need is explorer and Sys tray to be on.. is that right?
Well when I shut other things down, they will come back on, or not shut down at all.
I run windows 98.
Another thing I wondered about, a friend of mine who used to do computer work, had told me at one time that he could take a lot of programs out that I do not even need. Is this something I could do on my own? If so how do I know what I need and what I don't?

Any advice would be great!

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 02:16 PM

I know all I really need is explorer and Sys tray to be on.. is that right?

No, other system critical files will need to be running also.

You can use online sources to further understand each entry in your
task manager (what shows when you ctrl/alt/del)

Processes running.
Each is a filename.exe.
(except System & System Idle Process)

You can type the names into search boxes at these two:
Be sure the name is spelled correctly including .exe.
CastleCops Startup List. white box, press search. If it's in that database, a result will be returned.
Windows Startup Online.
use the filename box, not program title, for starters.

Alphabetically search these two:
AnswersThatWork. Press Task List.
ProcessLibrary.com

There are some tips & pointers you'd need to know
but searching the ones on your machine is a good start.

Each site offers recommendations regarding those processes
and some conflicting advice may appear is certain cases.
It would usually mean variables are involved.

Give it a go, and post back.

Edited by phawgg, 31 January 2005 - 02:29 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:06 PM

phawgg
Not Ctrl/Alt/Del.
You need to click Start/Run/type MsConfig/OK & click "startup" from the drop down menu.
Then uncheck all except Sys Tray, Explorer, *StateMgr, and any Anti Virus programs.
Ending the C/A/D items will only stop the running programs until you reboot or reselect the programs again and they will re-apprear again.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:22 PM

You know how when you hit ctrl/alt/del and all the programs that are running will show up?

When I do that I get the task manager, Russ.
Which shows running process.
Which I do not recommend deleting until/if/when you are sure of yourself.
I don't say how to delete them, either.

Several good ways do exist to end them,
but if I recommended ending any of them,
using the temporary end task feature
in the task manager would be a logical place
to start.
Not permanent, but you could/can check to see
if any adverse results develop first.

at any rate, it would be helpful to know
that the largest percentage of processes running,
when you ctrl/alt/del should be running.

Not every PC is running the same combination at any given time.
You should know what they are.
Search online databases for more information specific to your own PC.

I try to avoid confusion.

Edited by phawgg, 31 January 2005 - 03:26 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:45 PM

Phaw
Is your OS Win 98 or Win SE?
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:57 PM

phawgg is absolutely correct.
If you start messin with your critical processes then you are looking for trouble. You'll soon find some things won't run correctly ....if at all.

Another thing I wondered about, a friend of mine who used to do computer work, had told me at one time that he could take a lot of programs out that I do not even need.


Removing programs is easy. Just go to Add/Remove Programs in control panel. Just be sure the program you want to remove isn't dependant on some other program to run correctly. I wouldn't mind guessing though that you're friend wasn't referring to removing programs but was referring to removing files that you don't need from the windows O/S. Now that's a totally different ball game and will require some study and understanding of the structure of your O/S (operating system - WIN98)

The process is called "Slimming".
Just google "Slimming down win98" or go
HERE
and read and understand fully before you make any changes.

Another good source of information is the MSFN.org web site & forums.

Good luck and happy reading.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 03:58 PM

In Windows 95/98*Grinler you can bring up the Task List by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del. In Windows NT4/2000/XP/2003 you bring up the Task List by right-clicking on the Task Bar and choosing "Task Manager".

Russ, I use winXP
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 04:45 PM

If you are running Win 98 or Win 98SE Start/Run/Msconfig/Startup will give you the System Configuration Utility display. You can uncheck all items except ScanRegistry, System Tray & Anti Virus programs and windows will run fine. If you need any of the startup programs listed you can select them as needed fom Start/Programs or Explorer. If you want to reset any of the unchecked programs later they can be rechecked at will. Unchecking them in MsConfig only disables them at startup/boot, and does not destroy any programs. Ending Task in Ctrl/Alt/Del will only stop them until the next boot and they will restart unless unchecked in MsConfig. Using the Add/Remove in control panel will remove programs permanently. I don't think that is what you want to do.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 05:14 PM

Sorry phawgg I got you and dsfan68 mixed up. I am sure you are correct on
Win XP. I am not at all familiar with it. All my previous replys were for dsfan68 which I believe is running Win 98. Sorry about that.
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 09:13 AM

I have win98se, in msconfig-startup. I only have 3 ticked

Scan registry
Task monitor
LoadPowerProfile.

Should i have system tray ticked also?I did change the settings a few months ago for reasons i cant remember,if it should be starting i'll tick it,it seems to running ok.I also added these for faster startup.

Internet call manager
Dial up accelerator
Firefox preloader

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 06:02 PM

editing mscoinfig is the safest way of ensuring only necessary programs open at startup. it also speeds up the process. I agree with the other comments ie use the add and remove programs function in control panel.

in 'fixing' a computer its wise to know what programs are on the pc and what they do...any mysterious applications should be deleted and any net downloads should go to a folder on the desktop and be scanned before opening. this way you protect yourself from virus', key loggers and most spyware.
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