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Cannot Move Files After Taking Ownership


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#1 Blufx

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 01:23 PM

Hi all,
I had a bad experience upgrading to Windows Vista. Everything went fine untill time to start it for the first time. It booted normally, showed the windows start screen, then I got a nanosecond BSOD and it started booting again. The repair option didn't fix it. Like a Dip___, I didn't do a back up. So I installed another hard drive and Windows XP, then gathered up all my data from the other drive and placed it in a folder in the new drive. After that, I formated the old drive and reinstalled XP. Now, when I try to move the data after logging in as an administrator, turning off simple file sharing and taking ownership of the folder, I get this message:

"Cannot copy (file or folder name): Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use. "

No matter what I try, I get the same message.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Posted 29 July 2007 - 01:57 PM

Just double-checking, you followed these instructions correct?
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
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Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:00 PM

Hi Blufx. I just wanted to make sure that you tried to "taking ownership of the folder" you used the right method:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

Note that if you are running XP Home you must restart in Safe Mode.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 04:28 PM

Yes, these are the instructions I followed. I'm running XP Pro.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 05:53 PM

I've had problems with the settings for the folder propogating down through all the files and folders that are contained in the folder. While it's a genuine PITA, navigating down the directory structure taking ownership should fix this - even if it means taking individual ownership of each and every file individually! :thumbsup:
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Posted 30 July 2007 - 08:06 PM

John,
I really hope we can find another way. I'm talking about literally thousands files locked up here. All my music, pictures, videos, documents, and program install files I've collected. It would take countless hours to gain ownership and transfer them individually! :thumbsup:

Thanks for the help and I'm still hoping for more,

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:37 AM

Copy the files to a FAT32 formatted drive, that'll strip the permissions off of them and you can then use them without issue.
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 12:06 PM

Your problem is that you cannot use Windows to copy or move the files - the permissions are preventing this. You may be able to bypass using Windows by using a Linux boot CD such as Knoppix. It may have the ability to read NTFS and FAT partitions. I don't know whether it can load the right drivers for your system and for an external hard drive or USB drive to back up onto. It would be nice if it had a CD burning program included.

Perhaps other readers on this forum can give more detailed suggestions or alternatives.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:18 PM

ALRIGHT GUYS!!!

That's the best ideas I've heard yet. Sounds too simple to be true. But I really love the simple way. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks again,
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:29 PM

PClinuxOS has CD burning software built in, and so does slax, both have detected my external USB hard drive and USB flash drive.

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 05:41 PM

John,
Just letting you know, I have to buy another hard drive in order to try that. I'm going to Wal-Mart tonite to get one. I'll let you know how it goes after that.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 02:31 PM

Well John, I get the same message when trying to move the files to a FAT32 drive. I've tried moving individual files with the same result. I've got to try something else now. I don't have any expirence with Knoppix or PClinuxOS, but I got to do something. You got anymore ideas?


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Posted 03 August 2007 - 10:34 AM

Blufx, you really should try PClinuxOS. It's a bootable "livecd", that is, it does not use the hard drive in any way to run. It loads and runs completely in RAM from a bootable CD (DVD ?) When you take the CD out and reboot your hard drive will remain unchanged and run XP as it did before.

I don't know whether it can read NTFS drives or not, but it's worth a try. If it can then you can run the CD burning program to copy the files either to a CD/DVD or use the file manager to copy the files to an external drive. It should ignore XP permissions, which is the whole point of trying this.

You will find that this linux OS looks rather similar to XP. It has a Desktop and a file manager that works pretty much the same. There's no Start button, though. All you will need to do is either locate and run the CD burning program or drag-and-drop the files to your external hard drive. Once your files are copied it's highly reccommended that you convert the external hard drive to NTFS. FAT is error-prone and error-generating. That goes for you XP installation drive, too, in case it's not already in NTFS format.

You have nothing to lose, except a CD and your time.

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 12:06 PM

Blufx,

If I understand correctly, you still have two physical drives in your computer. You want to copy files/folders from your secondary drive (e.g., "D:"), which is an NTFS volume, to your primary drive (e.g., "C:")?

This may be a long shot, but at this point it might be worth a try. Rather than just taking ownership of particular folders or files, try taking ownership of the entire drive/partition. In "My Computer", right-click on the drive in question (e.g., "D:"), select the "Properties" command and then follow the rest of the instructions for taking ownership of a folder.

When you modify the permissions on the drive (2nd part of Step 6.), be sure to check the "Replace permission entries on all child object with entries shown here that apply to child objects" in the "Permissions" tab.

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 06:08 PM

Regarding PCLinuxOS

Data rescue instructions:
http://www.shockfamily.net/cedric/knoppix/

PCLinux download:
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

You should be able to drag-and-drop or copy-paste whole folders at a time.




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