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New Video Card...please Help Me Choosing One!


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#1 Swift01

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:09 PM

Hi, I really appreciate anybody's help with me in this situation.

Two minutes ago I went and put the order on for an HP a6150e Desktop computer (customized). The specs are (the way I bought it at least)

*   Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
	*  AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 4800+ dual-core - 2.5GHz
	*  1GB DDR2-667MHz dual channel SDRAM (2x512)
	*  Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
	*  FREE UPGRADE! 400GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive
	*  LightScribe 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
	*  16x max. DVD-ROM
	*  15-in-1 memory card reader, 1394, 3 USB, audio
	*  Integrated 7.1 channel sound w/front audio ports
	*  HP keyboard and HP scroller mouse

Bought 3gb ram on amazon for $100 cheaper than buying with the computer, planning to add the 3gb to the computer after receiving it. So will have 4gb of ram in the computer.

And the graphics card came with the computer, so I will simply switch the one that comes with it to whatever you guys would kindly suggest :thumbsup:.

More detail can be found if you click the link at the top of my post.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:17 PM

An integrated video card is unremovable- soldered to the motherboard. You will have to tell a little more about your mobo before I can help you, I don't know if you have PCI express, AGP, or PCI ports on your mobo, and your video card will depend on that.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:21 PM

Omg its integrated so I cant remove it?? I might have to cancel the order then if I can still

If you click the link you can clearly see it says this:

Graphics		 	Integrated graphics and dedicated graphics card options up to 256MB
PCI expansion 		  1 PCI Express (x16), 1 PCI Express (x1), 2 PCI

Edited by Swift01, 22 July 2007 - 04:22 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:25 PM

Do not cancel the order then. Your PC will have a PCI express x16 slot and thusly can handle the latest video cards. You can just as easily switch your video card being used to the non-integrated card. For heavy gaming and being ready for the future, this video card will satisfy your fix unless you want to spend $300+. Good luck.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:31 PM

Oh man, phew.

So, I can run the integrated graphics card + 8600 if I choose to buy it at the same time? This is called SLI or something isn't it? Most latest games have the option to turn SLI On, as do one of my games I have.

So, what is the real point in having another PCI express x16 slot...

Not sure what this is...So there are 4 video card slots in the computer? How do you know which slot (x16 or x1 or the 2 PCI) the integrated graphics card uses up? What does x16 and x1 mean?




http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P9ZG0...rd_i=B000P9TO6W

Is this the same video card you linked me to on NewEgg?

Edited by Swift01, 22 July 2007 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:45 PM

So, I can run the integrated graphics card + 8600 if I choose to buy it at the same time? This is called SLI or something isn't it? Most latest games have the option to turn SLI On, as do one of my games I have.

No, not quite. Your motherboard would need to have TWO PCI express x16 slots, as the only way to set up an SLI rig is to have two sli-supported x16 slots side-by-side. But with this card, SLI won't be necessary.

So, what is the real point in having another PCI express x16 slot...

That is the only way you can have sli is to have 2 x16 slots, so that is why some mobos have 2.

Not sure what this is...So there are 4 video card slots in the computer? How do you know which slot (x16 or x1 or the 2 PCI) the integrated graphics card uses up? What does x16 and x1 mean?

The integrated card does not take up these slots, it is like every other chip on your motherboard, soldered on. x16 and x1 are references to the different speed possible on the specific bus (or plug). The x1 is a different-shaped bus than the x16 bus. And yes, there are 4 video card slots in your PC but you can only use one at a time with your setup.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P9ZG0...rd_i=B000P9TO6W

Is this the same video card you linked me to on NewEgg?

No, and it would just be easier to buy from NewEgg, I couldn't even find it on amazon.

Edited by Ryan 3000, 22 July 2007 - 04:50 PM.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:00 PM

The one on NewEgg costs quite a bit. Could I find something for about $120 or less?

And I appreciate your helping me very much! Lovely fast responses too :D

Edited by Swift01, 22 July 2007 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2007 - 07:18 AM

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 10:04 AM

Still searching for the right one!

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:09 AM

I wonder if those video options from HP included a better motherboard and power supply with the video card upgrades.

and do you void your warranty by adding one later?
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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:35 AM

Doubt it to both of your wonderments.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:56 PM

here's a cheap upgrade

http://3btech.net/pnyge76gs25p.html
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 06:46 AM

Since the system already has 2 - 512 mB chips running in Dual Channel mode - will the other chips that you bought fit in the 2 remaining slots?

Also, due to limitations with 32 bit Windows, it will only recognize about 3.25 of the 4 gB's when installed. That's what I'm using on my system and it appears to be working fine (although I've got 4 - 1 gB sticks running in Dual Channel mode)
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:35 AM

Oh, that's sad to hear usasma. I will find out when I get it (probably Friday).

I went ahead and bought this video card:
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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:46 AM

it's hard to beat the egg, their service is tops

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150229

and 20$ cheaper
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